quake 3 is old game its from 99
eplus is gr8 mod but ppls getting older not younger
have less time to play
young ppls goes to play cod4 ehh

maybe the clan area is bit lower then before but
i see aim beer active most of time which is gr8

haha everytime i come on this forum someone is trying to be smart and attempt to elaborate on the mod's population decrease (which by the way, is based in a 10 year old game) and point fingers at people for why, seriously, how many times was this topic done? how many times have we come up with a solution? I did not read the topic so if I am wrong by what i say in this post then pick a smarter name.

honestly visintg the forums, or NOW, visiting the webpage and seeing 'E+ DYING!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?' in real big letters at the TOP of the page the first thing i read as a new-comer is NOT going to make me want to join.

the resounding theme is "This is an old dated game!" "the younger generation likes new gen games *GASP*!" "older people have less time or lost interest!!!"

save yourself some time and stop these stupid, useless analysis. give e+ a silent death, if it ever comes. We do not need a count down. You are sucking the life out of e+ with these stupid topics.

for the record, i still get on e+ whenever i want and have a full server. I don't see anything dying. Yes, sorry clan leaders, etc are lazy/busy and don't want to organize things every other day. tough balls.

and finally, again; I did not read the topic so if I am wrong by what i say in this post
then pick a smarter name.

What I say now is not 100 percent on topic, but what bothers me most is the anonymity on the public servers. More than the half are using fake-nicks. The game makes me personally twice as much fun when I know against who I play. There is simply no fun to win against a nobody, or to get owned by a nobody. Previously there were names that stood for E +, today it are players with fake names.

I myself am proud to wear my clan name, not because it is my own clan, I also wore the Absolute-Tag with pride, I do it, because it is part of the game. I am not afraid to get owned, I don't care much if i am 9th in stats or on place 90 (I care, but not much). Today i rock, tomorrow i suck. It is how it is, no reason to fake my nick just because i think i could play bad. From 500 games i fakenick maybe once. For the most others it is more like from 500 games they fake 1 time not.

And this is "maybe" a reason, why some players don't care public gaming so much anymore, because there are just fakenickers anyway. And this is maybe also one reason, why people think smo is inaktive or a clan is inactive, just because there tag is never seen anymore on servers, just because they fakenick. The presence of clans is also built on the presence of their players on public servers. Many of the inactiv-believed persons play often daily, but nobody knows about it, because they fake their names.

Keeping a clan up, is also about public relations, public relations are also about beeing present. Clans which are present, are getting prefred joint by new members. A clan which doesn't show activity on servers won't get asked to join ever. Why people should join a clan which is not present (better, which doesn't show presence, even if it would be so easy to show presence).

If i would be a neutral player (if i wouldnt be mow, who knows a lot about clans and activities in E+), i wouldn't come onto the idea to ask THC to join, or to ask DA to join, or BBS, DS, Scorpions or Wasp, because i see more clans like unique, F2B, Evol, ABS, Mr., Extreme, C4, and i would prefer to join a clan which has players which are proud to wear the clan-tag, also in pulbic.

It is a fact, that new players (also skilled ones) who don't know about the relations in E+, will always join clans with "presence".

And now, regarding the allegations, that the good clans grab the players away in front of the other clans....

This is nonsense. It's the players who choose the clans. However, I can only speak for F2B. We are full, we have 9 active members, and a inactive one. When we searched a new member last week and found, we had many applications. We did look for 1 member, but we had many applications, but we acceptet just one, this was nosia. He was the first, so we took him, since he is ofc not the worst player arround . We denied to the other ones (even better players than nosia, since we set ourselves a memberlimit, which just can be ignored, if 2 players are getting inactive for a longer thime. Those players which were denied by F2B, haven't joined a other clan, yet. Why is this? Apparently, other clans are maybe not interesting enough. What i mean with "not interesting"? Well, one of the reasons i explained above very detailed. Many other clans are not as present as we are.

Ofc, presence is not the only reason to join a clan, big names can be a big advantage to catch other big names. But is more important to show the players, that the clan has a enthusiastic leader?! Personally I catched first bo3m, a normal name i would say, so big names are not all. I often pmed fala, gave him arguments, talked him a bit, and conviced him. I also had to convince Shellingjoke and Riku, i had to give arguments, it is not like i said, "hey, join F2B". I said "hey, want to join f2b, because....". I made, if u wanna say it like that, i made active advertising. (Under us, big names are not all without teamplay, and this is what we have to learn in F2B).

Nowadays it would be easier to get members, since we have bigger names in the clan, and big names are magnets for others.

Last but not least, don't complain if u r not willed to do something against it activily! It is all in ur own hands!

OK, i changed topic and removed or edited posts which were made through missunderstandings about the point of this thread. Feel free to re-edit ur own posts, or express ur oppinion again, but now to the actual point of this thread.

actualy its frustrating if someone wins on beer with a fakenick, or plays for his stats, like ali said before reconnect all the time.

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Personally I catched first bo3m, a normal name i would say