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[lol?] Railhitscan
23. December 2010 - 9:26
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Re: [lol?] Railhitscan
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If you use terms unknown for most, then please put near their brief explanation.
Sure you right but its not so easy (and there is no corresponding forum rule 
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I wonder how 'seing everything a bit earlier' is associated with 'skip protection'.
Wrong term, I means "seeing a bit in future" http://www.ra.is/unlagged/walkthroughs.html#SC
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we'll extrapolate what his origin would have been if he had continued at the same velocity, and send that to the other clients instead of his actual origin
- I saw that many times and it wasn't correct all those times, also it introduces some new weirdness: if you staying behind the corner and start moving to its end - enemy can kill you while you still see that you are far from its (corner) end
23. December 2010 - 10:14
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Re: [lol?] Railhitscan
wrote:- I saw that many times and it wasn't correct all those times, also it introduces some new weirdness: if you staying behind the corner and start moving to its end - enemy can kill you while you still see that you are far from its (corner) end
Exactly the same feeling I have also often . Out of my visual angle I am behind the wall, but the opponent hits me with the rail. Then I ask him how that can work . answere mostly short : I saw you..
i often have this and I believe that I do not imagine if i read this !
The question : this can be measured and attempt to eliminate this ?
Edit : i think that is not an individual case.
Ps: But I must say that I do not have as much presentiment of that
as this can happen !
23. December 2010 - 11:21
#23
Re: [lol?] Railhitscan
wrote:Quote:If you use terms unknown for most, then please put near their brief explanation.Sure you right but its not so easy (and there is no corresponding forum rule
Then I do explain. Skip protection/skip correction is to smooth the view of lagged player for others (linearize its chopped movement), ie it is the position extrapolation for lost packets and heavy lags. It is beside the point of topic and does not cause 'seeing a bit in future', unless extrapolation means future for you.
wrote:Quote:we'll extrapolate what his origin would have been if he had continued at the same velocity, and send that to the other clients instead of his actual origin- I saw that many times and it wasn't correct all those times, also it introduces some new weirdness: if you staying behind the corner and start moving to its end - enemy can kill you while you still see that you are far from its (corner) end
You forgot to mention that your quote is about frame skips, ie when the player is so lagged so server did not receive a packet from it during the server frame.
23. December 2010 - 12:41
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Re: [lol?] Railhitscan
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ie it is the position extrapolation for lost packets and heavy lags
which is happening pretty often and serverside btw
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It is beside the point of topic and does not cause 'seeing a bit in future', unless extrapolation means future for you.
wrong extrapolation + unlagged shot can give such feeling
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You forgot to mention that your quote is about frame skips, ie when the player is so lagged so server did not receive a packet from it during the server frame.
Server frame loss can happens pretty often in case of floating ping without any packet drops or real lags from client side
23. December 2010 - 12:44
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Re: [lol?] Railhitscan
kkkkkkkk,
cyrax +dev, beast +asskick to activity = cyrax, panda, beast start to work to minimize the problem (i bet it is not fixable 100 % for unlagged)
23. December 2010 - 12:59
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wrote:i bet it is not fixable 100 % for unlagged
True, but some actions are much more delayed than displayed ping compensation should take. First few weeks after switching from 1.03 to 1.04/2.0 I thought that there is some kind of "buffer cheat" in use here. Then I've noticed that sometimes my enemies comes out of the corners like sheep for a slaughter as well.
23. December 2010 - 18:14
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I would vote for cyrax to see how he would fix those things he told above about. I am so curious because I don't get the logic.
And on topic, please finally read my quote of myself on previous page and consider it the cause of phenomenon.
23. December 2010 - 21:15
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Re: [lol?] Railhitscan
I'll test tonight if he didnt already fix those.
24. December 2010 - 12:43
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Re: [lol?] Railhitscan
Generally you are right about offtopic - I'm just searching for reasons taking in mind that older e+ versions doesn't have highlighted (no only on-topic) things in such degree. You can say that is incompetence (to be clear - i'm troll there a bit 
but you can't say that its only imagination. Just because there is known memory corruptions which can trigger anything
Anyway, attention is drawn, expecting some action 
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@ impius: zero chance cyrax codes for e+, btw, he would drink cognat till its fixed, no matter what happens
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