I agree with mow ...we have to let PB determine weather or not we are dealing with a cheater. In this case radar got caught for having multihack on his PC. If the he can "prove" that it was a mistake then that should be taken into account. So far i havn't seen any proof.
This is how it has to be done ...PB cannot lie to us(hopefully) ..so i take PB's words over any other humans word unless some extraordinary evedince is presented.

And IMO 10 not even 100 demos of radar that shows that he do not cheat is not enough

I've played him a few times and he seems to be a nice person and a very good player. Im not Diesell so I have lost atleast half the rounds with him.
Too bad if he is good only coz of some 'aid'.
The evidence is quite clear against him (some bot WAS obviously active, not kicked only by some cvar), and all I can say is: Dude u play way too good to ever need that shit!

I take it as that PB print was a clean copy/paste...

Peace

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is any one else getting sick of people taking this piss, maybe we should leave and leave it all to the danm cheaters.

yes, no discussion, ban for live.....dont give any attention to them at all.
forum opperators should also detect and delete cheator topics and threads immidiatly here.
let the cheating community know that e+ is not a place to cheat.

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1-He got kaught by lemon freeze server cheating or with the file ? after that he went to delete it .. then he return to many servers and play exact the same .. he pass all the pb test and play awesom acording to warez leet words.

2- I download it quake from a zip folder that was already installed and with many tweaks on it by lucky of me no aimbot there

3- i have seen p2p quake with harfmul files .. including a Folder named H4cz

4-He got trained by Diesel and diesel is a well trusted man.

5-Personaly i use the same style.. sneak/hide/hear awesom guessed shots.. many times called wallhacker and cheater .. scripter and recorded

6- I play in pb servers with deep scanns that probs that i dont cheat

7- he did the same .. he plays againts another good player and play good after he get rid of that bullshit.

I hope im not wrong but i see inocence

If you are talking about radar I invited him to come an dplay on our pb enabled servers amd he played ok and PB didn't detect him, but he was warned it ha dpb enabled, later he was caught using the multi hack on some other server that nromaly doesn't have Pb enabled (I guess it was mowñy who enabled it ) and it was enbaled suddenly.

So for me knowing that he was about to be tested on a PB server he dissabled the game hack and later he continued to use it.

One more thing PB doesnt detect the game hack if you are not loading it (which has to be done on puerpose) but it detects some cvars stored on cfg, but on this guy's case it clearly said it was gamehac deteted no cvar violations so it seems he knew what he was doing.

i want to say that i just turned on pb surpriseily..and it did not kicked him.
And my opinion about this could not make a pressure on the clna respect because it is not the clan who say this stuff but only me... if u want i can make another acount with some false nick and post from there if u stay say that i degradate clan image.