I do not know what some people imagine under a clan, what they expect and so forth. I will never understand how someone can join a clan and joins already few weeks later the next clan.

Nevertheless, if I enter a clan, I look how the conditions are which I expect of the clan, which I expect even of myself. This has to be checked that before, not while i am in a clan.

I wanted to become member of MR. No slot was free. Now a slot is free, but I do not hurry loosely and leave Absolute. Since I checked the situation in advance, I remain loyal, from the beginning to the end, or until something fatal happens.

A clan is not just there in order to be only a "clanmember", for show off on public servers with wearing a clantag. Being a clanmember brings also some obligations with with it. Even if it is only a game. Responsibility is important, particularly the responsibility opposite yourselves.

You don't need to comment me, i just wanted to have said my oppinion regarding this just once again.

Agree with mow. A clan is there for people to play together and share passion (as retarded as it sounds). aNk for example is as strong and as large as any e+ clan here, yet most of us are away from e+ for good. I mean in the past 6 months we've collectively been through games more than balrogm8 made clans and still are on IRC at least on a weekly basis. And despite some people going inactive/semi-active, our numbers haven't declined yet. Going through like Q2, Serious Sam, UrT, QL, Edawn, Starcraft (lolol) and few other games lately (borderlands/mario cart on Wii lolol).

In e+, mr/hyper/zmb/ds (and a few others) or for example, >< over on e5 have shown similar bonding over the years but it's still plagued with the Balrog syndrome and the waspmadmaster disorder. Sad but what can you do.

Oh and please don't treat this as a recruitment letter... every1 we wanted from e+ we already got, just wanted to share opinions

So official form... I like it

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being loyal to a clan that sux and u couldnt know before u joined or it became suckish isnt very sensefull.l

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I remain loyal, from the beginning to the end, or until something fatal happens..

I always leave some space for interpretations

Abs nearly was gone down, atm we are active enough for fws.

I guess i have the right to call myself loyal to MY clan, and to most members in them too.
u can be loyal to your clan if it pays off, as clan founder, i got no reason to quit my own clan, I was never interested in supporting a better clan, rather the clan i like.

its the mentality all people within a clan have that differs clans with loyal members and others without.