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Re: Calling for New Moderators

@ term

Hello, Since You are lately more guest here then an actual admin,
You don't know what is going on and why people demand changes.
I will try to describe what actually is wrong and what people
expect to be changed.

We've got now anarchy. People don't respect moderators and vice versa.
The fault is on both sides. E+ was never place of "flowers, kisses and hugs"
but now it's one big flame war and riots.
Moderators can't handle it and people are aware of it.
What we all need are new ubiased, respected, inteligent and objective mods.
Lately moderators are acting like gods and don't give people any ability
to express their needs. Mods are just doing whatever they feel like.
Seems like there is no more democracy Sad Also many of them are biased
on their private relations with other users. Which makes them not
objective in many cases. When people point it out and their mistakes, they are
ignored or just attacked by their friends, which is turning into another flame war
and topic is getting closed. "Discussion" is closed with addnotation moreless like:
"we are mods and important is what we decide not some noobs" Surprise

So, YES WE DON WANT CHANGES, WE DEMAND THEM.
People who voted "no" either are blind, or just have some interest in
keeping things like they are right now. For example Ranking Mods.
I know that Dark Angel voted "NO" (and if he denies he lies).
IMO he is comfortable with having ranking mod and admin rights on e+
It gives him power, he knows it and all his lil' friends know it aswell.
I don't know if u can check who voted "NO" but I bet that mostly
it will be DarkAngel's clanmates and other "happy tree" friends.

WE DEMAND TO HAVE DEMOCRACY HERE.
And I think I know how to bring it here very fast and very easly.
1. Remove DarkAngel and BlackRose
First of all they are very biased on relations, they showed it many times
already, they also don't know what word "democracy means"
Furthermore they have lack of respect and nobody actually cares
what they say. I personally hate them, but this is not the point.
The point is to be objective and not think in categories like they do:
"I don't like u and u don't like me so I'm not listening to what u have to say"
This is not acceptable on democratic forums, isnt it?
2. Remove all inactivev mods
I think only one is Skinnis, I think he is good guys but for last year or more
he didn't do a shit Happy (sorry skinnis, u know it's true).
3. Leave Aliminium and Epsilon as mods, they maybe had couple
mistakes but they are now doing ok. I think we should give them one more
chance. And to show that I'm not biased on relations I agree that I don't like
Aliminium Happy imo he is idiot, but I respect his job lately.
4. Most important point. Add as many mods as u can.
IMO 3 people managing E+ RANKING, imo skullhead + fate + zont or seebz
Atleast 8 people taking care of forums, divided in pairs to seperated sections.
And don't pick new mods by yourself, u dont know how things are right now.
Don't listen to single people who write to you. Listen to what majority says.
I mean let's pick new mods, let community decide who we want now.
Democratic way, just like u chose president in democratic countries.
What we need are people with those things:
- unbiased (not deciding on own private relations with others),
- intelligent/reasonable (so they will think before they act),
- objective (who will listen and then decide best for community),
- respected (people who are here more then 2 years and who are well
known and respected for behavior, good example is skullhead, people don't
like him Happy he can be a dickhead, but he is respected)
- active (we need people who will be here active, not vanish just like u or easy xD )
- reliable (so they are not changing their mind every second and lie to people or deny
what they said before :E ),

Also they should co-operate with eachother as mod team, but also
co-operate with all users, so they will help with communities problems,
not ignore them.

CHEERS.

AnyoneSays
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Re: Calling for New Moderators

all are quots from terros text

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So, YES WE DON WANT CHANGES, WE DEMAND THEM.
People who voted "no" either are blind, or just have some interest in
keeping things like they are right now. For example Ranking Mods.
I know that Dark Angel voted "NO" (and if he denies he lies).
IMO he is comfortable with having ranking mod and admin rights on e+
It gives him power, he knows it and all his lil' friends know it aswell.
I don't know if u can check who voted "NO" but I bet that mostly
it will be DarkAngel's clanmates and other "happy tree" friends.

I dont feel the same as u, i dont know DarkAngel or Rosi as well,ofc we talked in past and will do in future, but i see they are doing there job, and dont flaming around how much power they have. I just can say, as i was new in ref team, i asked them something about ref work, they answerd me, HELPED ME. All fine. Never had a problem with them of something u wrote above.

I really cant say if it is the way u tell, but for me no it isnt.

some changes are demand, true, but not all.

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Don't listen to single people who write to you. Listen to what majority says.
I mean let's pick new mods, let community decide who we want now.

I listen to u but dont agree in some points, each voice is a part of this big one.

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WE DEMAND TO HAVE DEMOCRACY HERE.
And I think I know how to bring it here very fast and very easly.
1. Remove DarkAngel and BlackRose
First of all they are very biased on relations, they showed it many times
already, they also don't know what word "democracy means"
Furthermore they have lack of respect and nobody actually cares
what they say. I personally hate them, but this is not the point.
The point is to be objective and not think in categories like they do:
"I don't like u and u don't like me so I'm not listening to what u have to say"
This is not acceptable on democratic forums, isnt it?

in this point i dont agree. For me it looks like u had a bad disput with them and want to kick them coz of this, tough they do there work.

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2. Remove all inactivev mods
I think only one is Skinnis, I think he is good guys but for last year or more
he didn't do a shit Happy (sorry skinnis, u know it's true).

3. Leave Aliminium and Epsilon as mods, they maybe had couple
mistakes but they are now doing ok. I think we should give them one more
chance. And to show that I'm not biased on relations I agree that I don't like
Aliminium Happy imo he is idiot, but I respect his job lately.

4. Most important point. Add as many mods as u can.
IMO 3 people managing E+ RANKING, imo skullhead + fate + zont or seebz
Atleast 8 people taking care of forums, divided in pairs to seperated sections.
And don't pick new mods by yourself, u dont know how things are right now.

ok inactive ppl here are not needed agree

also cant say ali and epsi do a bad job

pairs building for separete section good idea.

ps. i dont try to start flaming against u terror, i just wanna shown up that ppl think different.

cheers 2

Yellow card for

Using ur brain, finding a solution, beside an excisting rule and have an agreement.

Gj


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Re: Calling for New Moderators

ppl also can think different if they don't know what they're talking about, larry. look at my sig - there're two examples of what terror was talking about.
so, it's not that terror just says it.

edit: damn. it seems the sig is only showed in the very first one's message in every topic. so you'll find my sig somewhere above in this topic Tongue


.aNk/xXxp4l/:bR.Shady'XYN! wrote:
Fuck! I just thought of the most awesome pun about the BC vs Smurfs final game and the flames that followed :
"In Soviet Moldavia, Pole rages YOU"
like 2 months after Call me

3M'darkangel wrote:
// 09:30:49 27.06.2010, UNKNOWN LOCATION,
Name { "Biotoxin" }
IP { "localhost" }

SHUDDER wrote:
People are training hard to hide their autoshoot so well while gain enough skills to win (or at least compete on similar level) without them. This is getting insane or provoked. I feel like I would cut myself with Ockham's Razor if I claim a cheat there.

AnyoneSays
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Re: Calling for New Moderators

and how many proofs i should write in my sig, that it isnt like that ! ?
helpfuly, not god like and so on.........

its how u acting with ppl, how u scream into the wood, it will come back in the same way.

fact is i cant proof it for myself.

and in all talkes i had with them, never they bash someone bad. no terror no u.

and ofc i wont read millions of lines, what happen here to terror from darky or rosi

or

what happen to darky or rosi here from terror.

why?
im old enough to get my point of view from them.

Yellow card for

Using ur brain, finding a solution, beside an excisting rule and have an agreement.

Gj


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Re: Calling for New Moderators

I totally agree with terror

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Re: Calling for New Moderators

so, you're saying, larry, that you don't want to see their biased and god-like behaviour here, on forum. ok, got it.

edit: and yeah, supporting terror, dark & rose should resign from ranking and forum mods.


.aNk/xXxp4l/:bR.Shady'XYN! wrote:
Fuck! I just thought of the most awesome pun about the BC vs Smurfs final game and the flames that followed :
"In Soviet Moldavia, Pole rages YOU"
like 2 months after Call me

3M'darkangel wrote:
// 09:30:49 27.06.2010, UNKNOWN LOCATION,
Name { "Biotoxin" }
IP { "localhost" }

SHUDDER wrote:
People are training hard to hide their autoshoot so well while gain enough skills to win (or at least compete on similar level) without them. This is getting insane or provoked. I feel like I would cut myself with Ockham's Razor if I claim a cheat there.

AnyoneSays
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Re: Calling for New Moderators

i dont say i wont .. i dont need to i know all necessary.

as i wrote above i done my own point of view, thats all.

Yellow card for

Using ur brain, finding a solution, beside an excisting rule and have an agreement.

Gj


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Re: Calling for New Moderators
madbringer wrote:

alienM wrote:
translate: he want candidate his own ass... Tongue gl with it ex clan mate! Big grin

He did exactly the opposite.

bingo!

D3L1GH7 wrote:
Okay guys, next time I wanna waste time on a useless topic I'll call you.

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eu.jeff wrote:

EDIT: i quoted this because people keep calling names in here, we dont know IF they want to do the job thats why i posted that idear so that people WHO WANT to be mod in here have there chance of becomming 1

Greetz Jeff

This would be the obvious thing to do in any other community, but I think that no "established" e+ player will bother to apply, leaving only the new, more enthusiastic players to adopt every position e.g. Darkangel and Blackrose. And then you're back to square one... No doubt about it that the majority of older players are lazy and therefore bring up the same excuse that they don't have time etc, but seeing that many fellow players want them as a mod may push them to accept.

I think we should vote in people for rank moderation since their job will affect every clan player, not just active forum users and perhaps just do an application process for general moderators.

AND Larry, this just killed it for me...

3M'blackrose wrote:
Impius why i should take this vote seriously? I dont know who voted here, may be some kids who dont know for what they voted or other votes which are based only on attitude to us. I agree to change rule how it suggested FPS.
Nothing to add. You can continue to complain but nothing will change:)

...as well as many other cocky and ignorant replies. I remember saying that they had no attitude but boy did they prove me wrong.

I actually think one of them (Dark or Rose) should be kept as rank mod since they were very efficient in ranking games. Just keep them away from rules since they fucked that part up, big time.