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tired to bring a lot ppl to e+ and mostly its failed couse its to quick for them, in thier eyes its look like only luck couse all hapening 10 times quicker than on osp, they played osp serveral years and represent good lvl then comes to e+ server and get beaten like nub couse of luck spam in thier eyes, they get flustrated and tell what a nub mod is that, then disconet

this mod is oposite of all to what they get used on osp/cpma/vq3 to someone who isint as that stuborn e+ will bee seen atractive

im did played in ig freeze turnament and there was invited one of the best osp clans form poland, after they get losed several times in scores like 4:40 they retried that cup sawing its mod for nubs and camper than it dosent requires eny skill ect ect...

if they have so much more skills that these camping nubs why they get beten like that ?

So very true. And so very stupid from those guys. You simply need to adjust and use the skills you already have in a different way.. but most get discouraged.

It's really annoying when those "pro" players from osp, cpma or vq3 keep saying E+ is a noob mod just because it's different.

But, like i said, that's how most of the q3 community sees E+, and we can hardly change that.

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sorry but thats is so low...

I don't understand what you mean. What is excactly low in your opinion?

just to answer hq's question, yes part of why they feel that way is probably because they got beaten, but u have to agree they have a valid point. most of the skills required in e+ are also required in most other mods, its just that those mods such as osp/cpma require a lot more skills. its not difficult why people think of mods like e+ as mindless, cos compared to the mainstream "pro" mods, the gameplay IS mindless.

personally i think if the really good players from those mods actually came to e+ and played for a month, theyd rape everybody in sight, say i told you so and quit. end of story. (i base this on the fact that ive played e+ and cpma for about the same period of time and ive gotten a LOT better at e+ than i have at cpma). i think the reason why this osp clan decided not to continue in that tourney is because after a point gameplay like this (guessing this is uft but u could apply it equally well to e+) is designed so that skills only take u so far, after that it becomes about who can be gayer, who can camp more, who has more patience etc etc. most q3'ers would find this frustrating enough to quit pretty damn quick.

anyways back to on topic. why is e+ not so popular? erm who says its not popular. it has one of the largest communities of any q3 mod that i know of. it has probably THE most active clan scene in any q3 mod. that to me is actually the only real factor keeping me in this mod. sure it was fun generally fucking about with bfg slides and railing people, but its gotten boring real quick. im not into e+ pub games cos theyre about as boring as q3 gets. if ever i get tired of the clan scene that would probly be the end of e+ for me.

oska...., most newbies start with this mode, since there are nearly no other servers on top of q3-ingame-browser as e+-servers. (this has a reason).

So, most newbs start even with e+, and so they can decide if they can continue with e+ or not.

The only thing u can attract are people, who doesnt even know about q3. But this people are rare. Most of them dont mind such old games.

We can be really happy, that there are still a few newbs are comming, since q3 is very old.