Wax said:-

YES!!! haha...
someone tells me that ogc is now no longer developing and all their cheats are now fully detectable by PB. maybe victory is in sight

damn there is a rule in his game u can hear persons when u dont see that and they move soundless.... then the sound in the backround goes higher!!!!! and maybe he shoots like me... when i play quke 3 he shoot behind each corner... maybe there stand one or maybe not... and with wh he must hit your face and dont fail it!

Golem u misunderstood me. No matter. U r a Noone here.
Out of this shish

wrote:

So, Mr. Dest-Leader,

as I had mentioned already in this thread. I do not have anything against you personally, I have something against how you control the things.

For the incident some weeks ago:
bsti and another (Fakenicked) was on the 2!S Server. Mr Faknick was unfriendly on the server, he offended people. Bsti supported him. Then I said, "stop insulting or ban" or similar. Mr. Fakenick turned out then. That had convinced me then to ban "bsti" and "Mr Fakenick".

These bans was planned to unban after 1 or 2 days but i forget that incident. That through that still a lot of other Dest were banned, is not my mistake, it's Dests mistake if they share cd-keys or whatever.

One day i played a 1vs1 with a dest, i don't remember who it was. This guy said to me, that many Dest are still banned. Then i remembered the incident and i unbanned u guys immediately.

Now for my statement "Dest = cheaterclan". That is associated with that, that you guys have defended RAM after he was busted by PB for cheating. If one defends a Cheater than it can mean only 2 things. Low knowledge or Cheats are shared in Clan.

Sorry for my late answer to this but i had no time to react on that..
To the First point: Yes I was on your server with a Fakenick guy (it was Yeah) and he sayd "Stirb doch du arsch :D" which means "Die u Ass :D". He said this to a guy of Lime because he wasnt able to kill him before he died.. The ":D" shows very clear, that that was just a joke and i tried to explain to you... You simply overreacted and we both thaught you behaved a lil bit ridiculous because of such a shit... But when you dont have any humor to differentiate between insults and jokes. Sorry for this missunderstanding but shit happens..

And now to the ban thing: This situation happened on 2|Sweet FFA server. After that i played a lot of times on your Freeze server, cause its the only freeze server where you dont have ping >100. But overnight i wasnt able to join because i got banned (without playing on the server). Probably it was because someone uses same cd-key like me but i dont know anybody using my cd key... So the one thing has nothing to do with the other (probably you can make this all clear to me(i at least hope))

I hopw you never get into the situation that somebody "busts" you as a cheater, but if you will ever be called cheater, you will want people standing behind you like we stand behind our members... u know the phrase "in dubio pro reo"? It means that every person is innocent until his guilt is 100% shown and this is not the case (at least in my oppinion)
So plz dont call us a cheater clan just because we defend our clanmates...

And like Yeah said: Its very hard to stay cool when somebody calls your clan a cheater clan without good reasons.

You should probably watch out what you say coz many people think you hate dest with no reason and most of them are absolutely no dest friends.. I dont want to blame you or anybody else but dont call a clan a cheater clan when not 100% of the members are cheaters. Ofc this shit happened to Dest 2 times in a short period of time abd its really not good for our reputation but what to do.. We cant do anything else then kick the "cheaters" and keep the biz going...

Nothing more to say for the moment.

BSTi
proud Leader of DEST - WE DONT CHEAT!!! ;D

wrote:

mhh the things going strange here at first

@rush: u know i like u and i hope u like me 2 but i must say u really, do u think before u write what u have writen here ?? really u going straight through your life with many "for you good/for the rest bad" prejudices.

for sure i know blizzard is cheater and blah blah, i dont mind really cause this guys dont play on my server, but the main thing i think is freak.

I know freak since 2 months, i have played with him much on my server, other servers i know him as a good friend and player, i never have had the impression that he cheats or anything.

For sure for each rule there is an extra rule which means the exeption and i dont want too defend anyone here, just my mind and my cogitations.

at first i dont belive blizzards story cause it still sounds like cheater backing cheater and this stuff but some special points in this story let belive it too me, first thing is that freak really dont know anything from configs or such things, he asked me much time about this stuff. and then i think its a big shame for blizzard too present himself like this in this thread, if he was/is cheater or not, i think its shame and i dont think that this guy has done it only for backing freak, but how sayed i dont want too BACK/protect/support anyone, just my knowledge and my mind about these thing.

i think iam how para for first out of that

Aww....come on....whats your problem now ?

I WAS FELT IT...He was use same CHEATS....He was switched IT on/off.
That's it all....I'M OUT....This is SPAM and FLAME.