1) we dont talk about athlons here
2) yes i know what im talking about.
3) yes i cant run in another ratio? but what the fuck has this to do with our discussion?
4) yes, i see with faster ram and cpu superpi is faster. uuhh, what a wonder. this has nothing to do with asynchron DIRECTLY, it has do to with the ram speed, dont u understand that?
5) i never said, that only the cpu is the reason. i said, that cpu AD RAM run on higher speed, so superpi is faster

ok, one last try to show you. we have 2 cpus. both have 3 ghz. but one has fsb 800 mhz and the other 1066 mhz. we have 2 same rams that run on 1066 mhz.

cpu 1: 3000mhz, fsb 800, ram ratio: 4:5, ram 1066 mhz
cpu 2: 3000mhz, fsb 1066, ram ratio: 1:1, ram 1066 mhz

both systems will have nearly same score. the ram ratio doesnt effect the score directly, only the ram speed.

and now cu i dont talk anymore here, buy what u want, and madbringer, please dont attack me if you dont know what you are talking about

buy what u want

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I don't know what you're talking about? I'm in the damn business. And dude, seriously, technical mumbo-jumbo aside, the quality and amount of RAM in your PC is at least as important as your CPU and GFX. Only a total noob would say "RAM is not important".

Also, you ask "what the fuck that has to do with our discussion". I dunno what your discussion has to do WITH THIS TOPIC.

1) i know much people "who are in the business", and are still noobs.
2) the amount of ram isnt important for this topic, he wants to know WHICH RAM HE SHOULD BUY. second, sure the quality of the ram is important. but if you have one ddr2 800ram and another ddr2 800 ram IT WILL NOT BE MUCH DIFFERENCE, except one ram is soo bad that your systemn would run instable.

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ok, one last try to show you. we have 2 cpus. both have 3 ghz. but one has fsb 800 mhz and the other 1066 mhz. we have 2 same rams that run on 1066 mhz.

cpu 1: 3000mhz, fsb 800, ram ratio: 4:5, ram 1066 mhz
cpu 2: 3000mhz, fsb 1066, ram ratio: 1:1, ram 1066 mhz

both systems will have nearly same score. the ram ratio doesnt effect the score directly, only the ram speed.

i want to say, not the asynchron makes it faster, the ram speed does. for sure with asynchron the ram runs faster automatically, but asynchron isnt faster. IF thee would be 1:0.9 (asynchron) it would be slowr.

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ok, one last try to show you. we have 2 cpus. both have 3 ghz. but one has fsb 800 mhz and the other 1066 mhz. we have 2 same rams that run on 1066 mhz.

cpu 1: 3000mhz, fsb 800, ram ratio: 4:5, ram 1066 mhz
cpu 2: 3000mhz, fsb 1066, ram ratio: 1:1, ram 1066 mhz

again u beat world fsb speed record or write it as 4xfsb

oke and again its bs cuz real fsb is 200mhz and mem speed 533mhz its imporsible to get on intel chipset
second: 266 and ram 533 so its 1:2 not 1:1

so u still dont know what are u talking about........

i was talking about effective fsb again^^
u are right, thats my mistake. but it doesnt change the meaning of my post: asynchron itself doesnt make the systenm faster, the system is faster because of the higher ram clock.
for sure its better to have 1066 ram instead of 800 ram.

but i thnk now back to topic, rage must be very confused now
i will look for a few components for 400€ and edit them in.

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GigaByte P35-DS3 ~90€
Intel® Pentium DualCore E2160 ~60€
Thermalright Kühlkörper SI-128 SE ~40€
Corsair DIMM 2 GB DDR2-800 EPP Kit ~80€
Club 3D CGAX-3856DD ~150€

thats what i would buy. very much overclock is possible and for this price its nice i think. HD3850 should be faster as 8600gt.