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Oxide wrote:

joey wrote:
Fairy's "punch" at euro players was not really a punch, more of a misunderstanding. The american player "noobs" don't stick around for long so we don't really have a statistic for them however looking at the euroservers you can see a lot of noname players consistantly. It was not a poke at gaming skill level, more of population.

In short, euro has a bigger population and you can break that up by: 40% noobs (new players to the mod, stragglers, modless players, clueless, etc) 50% average players and 10% above average. Now lookg at actual numbers (fake, but for examples sake), 40% of those noobs = 40 players, 50% average players = 50 players and 10 players = above average. American has half of those players. Unfortunately, we do not get any noobs and when we do they usually do not stick around for long for whatever reason. Thus, we have a bigger percentage of Average and above average players however, not a bigger population. So what fairy is saying, he was mingling with your noob population which you guys have a lot of, or at least more than what the US servers have being you guys seem to attract stragglers to your server. He did NOT say europe was composed of shitty players period.

Joey, You and Fairy are both so so clueless it's disturbing.
When US will have more talent in quake right now then Euro i'll buy a US flag and hang it over my window.. capish

regards, oxide!

you are obviously clueless
I just said the US' skill level PERCENTAGES look bigger. Do you know what a percent is? it is a fraction. The US has 50 players. The Euro servers have 200+. We only have VETERANS, the noobs do not stay very long because the youth over here prefer xbox or at the very least, populated servers. Europe values the PC as a gaming system more-so than the US thus they have more population. More population means MORE people of different backgrounds. That means you not only have Great, Average and Noob players but you have all sorts of players beyond and between. Meaning, Europes percentages due to it's LARGER and VARIED population makes it look less skilled because the PERCENTAGES are smaller however to the contrary, your "great player" percentage could have a population that is greater than the US's. 50% out of 50 people = 25 people, so say the US has 25 great players. however Europe has 30% great players, that means you guys have 60 great players. Yes 30% looks smaller than 50% however 60>25. With that in mind, we simply said that europe has more noob players in regards to your larger population that attracts people while the US is losing players, good and bad.

Please read. We did not attack europe in any way, if anything we complimented it.

[MR.]MIRCWAR wrote:

Let's try this once more, SKULL thinks fairy is cheating. He is no longer responsible for the rank and rank bans, even if he was he would be hard pressed to force a decision where the majority disagrees with him. I.E. a "iffy" demo.

DS, Dancing Shadow, has nothing to do with the rank. He is taking the piss. Hist title is in his avatar, it's no title.

So, why is he allowed to have such a confusing avatar? Obviously he just caused more trouble than what was needed. I suggest you do something about it. The confusion came from you allowing him to use a fake title, impersonation. The ranking administration does not need to apologize due to them having done nothing wrong however, something should be done about dancingshit.

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[MR.]MIRCWAR wrote:

Let's try this once more, SKULL thinks fairy is cheating. He is no longer responsible for the rank and rank bans, even if he was he would be hard pressed to force a decision where the majority disagrees with him. I.E. a "iffy" demo.

im just to lazy to get more obvious evidence so people who dont belive get it.
whats with the admin that posted in shoutbox? who was like sometimes fairy gets owned and comes back 5 times better in aim but not changing gaming style?

hurrenson: "This idiot is apparently not familiar with a rail/sniper style."

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Oxide wrote:

joey wrote:
Fairy's "punch" at euro players was not really a punch, more of a misunderstanding. The american player "noobs" don't stick around for long so we don't really have a statistic for them however looking at the euroservers you can see a lot of noname players consistantly. It was not a poke at gaming skill level, more of population.

In short, euro has a bigger population and you can break that up by: 40% noobs (new players to the mod, stragglers, modless players, clueless, etc) 50% average players and 10% above average. Now lookg at actual numbers (fake, but for examples sake), 40% of those noobs = 40 players, 50% average players = 50 players and 10 players = above average. American has half of those players. Unfortunately, we do not get any noobs and when we do they usually do not stick around for long for whatever reason. Thus, we have a bigger percentage of Average and above average players however, not a bigger population. So what fairy is saying, he was mingling with your noob population which you guys have a lot of, or at least more than what the US servers have being you guys seem to attract stragglers to your server. He did NOT say europe was composed of shitty players period.

Joey, You and Fairy are both so so clueless it's disturbing.
When US will have more talent in quake right now then Euro i'll buy a US flag and hang it over my window.. capish

regards, oxide!

I never said we had better players, Your shifting words.

I said we have little to no noob players. You have more players in general in europe. You have noobs, You have good players, and you have a catagory I dont think we even have in North America, called godlyke players. Im not bashing euro for the last friggin time. Im telling you we have less players in total, and of that percentage pretty much no noobs. Just a ton of middle class blue collar workers. LOL.

Thanks again for telling me DS is (taking a piss) i didnt understand that slang as we dont use it here, so straight information would be better. So basically PHC is not banned from ranking? That is what my grudge was about, the fact that it was tarnishing a name, yet now it is not. I would love if things could stay crystal clear and not become clear as mud.

HUgs N KisSes all around.

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Things have been crystal clear from the get go - you came here with preconcieved opinions and should take greater care in reading stuff. This is a cheater discussion topic, not more or less.

As for the demo, yes I would actually think you did cheat. Atleast the first minute and a half, after Skull called you out you started fucking around. But my opinion is irrelevant since it will be impossible to prove it the most effective way. Will I apologize for my opinion? No.

Also DS did that in good fun, since some of the critique lateley has involved bans. One concerning his own clanmember. Great joke if you ask me. Regardless I resigned from my mod position a few weeks ago (the title has stayed). Feel free to take it up with any of the active mods.

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how about fairy simply shows us being able to do same accuracy on lowping not lagging under pb and pure?

hurrenson: "This idiot is apparently not familiar with a rail/sniper style."

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How about you simply talk to the server owner and get me banned there. I'm not jumping through your hoops mister, The fact of the matter is, if the server owner bans me, then theres somthing to worry about. Maybe Fubar hidenicks and watches that server, who knows. No one else there has ever said anything to me, which leads me to believe that either the admin there dont care, or dont show up to the server. Either way, get fubar on your side and have me banned from that server, thats what you should have been doing. No need to thank me, just trying to help.

BTW, I'd love to play with you and your crew somtime, you say theirs guys who are even better than you are skull, I want to see it, guys who snap to their oppenents and shoot them as the crosshair gets right near the hitbox. Guys who shoot rails around corners. All under pure and PB. Amazing how pb and pure are referred to in your post yet you've also stated pb and pure dont account for anything as most cheats are now custom made and undetected. Contradiction is forgiveable none the less.

Sorry joey, I just cant stop typing, restless finger syndrome.

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fairyprincess wrote:

All under pure and PB. Amazing how pb and pure are referred to in your post yet you've also stated pb and pure dont account for anything as most cheats are now custom made and undetected. Contradiction is forgiveable none the less.

it just makes things easier if u actually get caught by pb, its faster and a save evidence.

so far we already got 3 good playing europeans who say u cheat:
dancing shadow, mircwar and me, i greatly would like to see the oppinion of other good playing people able to spot cheaters.

ps: i dont say fairy does impossible shoots, not at all in the demo, or to say it with other words, u cant spot them due to fairys high ping lagging.
i say that fairys performance is impossible for the way fairy plays and fairys expirience. also a lot of suspicion on american side and fairys explaination for how he is able to do so well on fubar's server is ridicolous, expecially with fairy lagging that much.

hurrenson: "This idiot is apparently not familiar with a rail/sniper style."

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joey wrote:

BAN for 6 months
btw i did explained at morning whats on, because u taked it like i was going to cut yours hand of, but u haven't even noticed that

fairyprincess wrote:

BTW, I'd love to play with you and your crew somtime, you say theirs guys who are even better than you are skull,

I'm up for a friendly game, maybe I'm not as good as skull is but can give u a satisfaction of whooping my ass on us server instead of picking on every single word what have just been said

but

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Anyways, Yeah I do move over targets and not shoot them, so do most clean players, because their not exactly expecting it. I think there was one or two shots where I did try my hardest to follow a player with my crosshair to proove a point though.

so my guess was right, why proving that u don't have AS enabled while u just cloud play as usual the normal way, sorry but i really don't get it

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fala'fag wrote:

joey wrote:

BAN for 6 months
btw i did explained at morning whats on, because u taked it like i was going to cut yours hand of, but u haven't even noticed that

fairyprincess wrote:

BTW, I'd love to play with you and your crew somtime, you say theirs guys who are even better than you are skull,

I'm up for a friendly game, maybe I'm not as good as skull is but can give u a satisfaction of whooping my ass on us server instead of picking on every single word what have just been said

but

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Anyways, Yeah I do move over targets and not shoot them, so do most clean players, because their not exactly expecting it. I think there was one or two shots where I did try my hardest to follow a player with my crosshair to proove a point though.

so my guess was right, why proving that u don't have AS enabled while u just cloud play as usual the normal way, sorry but i really don't get it

Your English skills are excused, I did not realize you were not proficient in the language. Thats why the hasty jump on your aparent joke was made. I am sorry for that. Its alright now, I dont even care if you all supposedly "convict" me, because ranking aparently isnt happening now, and pretty much none of this actually means anything. Lets all just have fun and play together, I have no problem playing with euro players, you guys have so much to teach us.

Well, Im an honest and genuine person, I am willing to play anyone any server, just email me "thecolourblack@hotmail.com" I'll chat, whatever, pick a server. FTR I've played many servers just fine, then had PB activated and no kick, I used to have a problem with one of my files for PURE but I found out it was an automatic download of a particular rail file in the E+ folder, got rid of it, got rid of problem. I will say I have a particular problem playing with PB running, my machine is old and PB lags the hell out of me, as I already deal with ping spikes that many of my friends have witnessed. My ISP hates me I guess. I can play in a PB Pure server, not amazingly, but if PB is off and I play well then its turned on, I wont magically disconnect like I've seen some cheaters do. Its funny. Instead I'll just lag really hard on my own end, from my computer running PB. I have always had a problem with the PB program itself, as it runs in the backround even with quake3 not running. It has caused problems for my machine before, but I do conform to your standards and can play with it non the less.

Anyways, Stop the hate, lets all just play.

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i have no time to read the whole mess. But im here to backup fairy. He wanted to join HK and we tested him 100 times with pB, pure ON.

Played on off pb servers then sudently turned the PB on. the guy continued his awesome (good luck) skills. haha its true.

He is playing with an old laptop with no such great grafics, but he reminds me the times when i was playing quake with a p3 with 64 mb of video with high picmip so i could see every detail. Thats how i got into many victorys and even got called scripter and cheater... Total Lie.

Time show us that we or you or i am wrong, so give time a chance to let fairy show us his cool side. He is not a cheater, else he would be kicked from Deex (wich randomly picks pb on) and many other hk pb on fights that he was there.

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