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You don't know how discuss with someone and I will not putting my self in discussion with someone who don't know how to discuss. So when you learn to respect people and discuss with them in constructive way, keep with topic without personal level involved, let me know, then we can make some progress. Since then, bye.

ye ye - so plz also be constrictive. what exactly u have got against mods? Examples would be mutch appreciated. Since then, bye.

I wrote that in 100 posts, so I don't wanna do it again. However I am pessimistic about anything what is doable here in E+ forums... Anyway I here spoke to support Dakarin's head post. But somehow any of my posts follow interrogation posts of myself. I have to prove innocence. In democracy someone is innocent until guilty is proved...

I have nothing to say anymore in this topic. Good luck with forum, you all need it except few people.
Have nice day.

I wonder why it happens, that ur posts always turn into something heatfull? But it must be the fault of "all" others, because it cant be a mistake by you in which way ever.

Personally, i am far away of beeing like i wish to be, i insult sometimes, true, but i do it out of reasons and i stand the questions about it to explain myself, and dont run away out of arguments to hide behind my keyboard.

Ah, and please stop to put the word "democratic" into dirt. In times of war and terrorism and capitalism, there is no real democratic.

@ warnermann,
i have nothing against ur suggestion, especially not against the topic to not close the threads in the trashcan. about ur other suggestions, i miss the examples, but it is not my work to think about it. that can be discussed by you and the mods, not my case.

I just have something against the way of acting of rena. One of the biggest insulter of community (since a few weeks, was not always like that), with his ultra-wise posts, but without any arguments.

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Problem is exactly this u wont take so serius the others word but want the ppl take ur works seriusly.

;O No way man, i always treat people serious, unless it's clear i shouldn't (like they're also joking or something). Only people i do not treat serious are like that "Hi guys i'm an angry kid" guy. He comes here, starts screaming in caps, and then starts flaming when people ask him not to do that.

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if u want to make a joke in a serius rule i dont get the point. but if u are agree about this jokes or with the ironic content in ur last answer on trashed stuff why dont u leave that the owner of the trashed make the jokes? same guy, how this can look? lets see an example:
1.- "hi guys, i'm an angry kid" can look like:
2.- "hi guys, i'm an temper mod, pissing in ur words"

That's true. I hoped those titles would bring a smile to some faces and help ease up the tense atmosphere. But if it's really that bothersome, i'll stop doing that.

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About Equi suggestion: we can have 2 steps before final lock. its like a warning, because maybe post where out of context or in bad treath, forum, etc. but this dont means that all the letters wroten in it are full crap.
so trashing in the first step u can understand that somthing was wrong and ur post is close to be locked. maybe not in all cases but i think this rule need some retouch. to make it works fine for all around not only for someones.

Usually when i trash or lock a thread it's for a very serious reason. I understand that in the heat of the discussion everyone wants to have the final word, but that will never happen.

Now, the trashcan is just that - a trashcan. People don't sit in a trashcan and discuss, they leave the trash there. While not every single post that is there is "trash", most are, and it should be left that way.

I know how people feel when they see a thread they've been heavily engaged in having the last post not made by them. It rips your soul in two that you can't reply. But that's life.

Btw, i don't usually trash whole threads when there's only a few bad posts. The bad ones land in trash and the thread carries on.

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Well , maybe after that u can understand why i dont feel good when i got some stuff trashed and with joke in the subject that says: "nobody spects the spanish inquisition". at least this treath is not locked and u was able to answer to that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO68fUMWx3g

I was not mocking you by using a part of Spain's history, i was referencing a sketch made by Monty Python's Flying Circus. But like i said, i'll stop doing that, i'm sick and tired of people around here already as it is, no reason to make it worse.

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Dont use subject or the lst comment to write personal comments, jokes or ironic content, respect the original subject if it exist or use it just to write the rule that apply and because the treath/comments are trashed, or if subject exist then use the final replay to do this.

How about something like this - people will get what they deserve. Be polite - you get polite. Be an asshole - you get asshole treatment.

Why should i be polite and gentleman'ish towards people who treat me like dirt? Why should anyone have my respect if he dosen't respect me?

@Rena - like it or not, you're the main source of E+'s conflicts today.

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ppl started to get into dyscusions about persons not about belives and this makes a lot of shit in not so long past, the advice of day is to focus only about maters

*===*Let us count how many times rena will say the exact same thing, after hq's post. (2 so far)

u trying to be constructive?

if im seeying it wrong please do explain me what u mean,im dont see other things beside than u do pick on one of us meintored or meybe both

should i act like mad sugesting now? someone showed me lack of rispect same rena now can wirite some nice stuff about taratos

heres extample:
@tar get lost dickhead, if u dont know what other writing u can only do as the other runing bunch of sheeps doing ? clap clap gg
:end of extample

u think mad is the good way to have "dialog" like this one?

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ppl started to get into dyscusions about persons not about belives and this makes a lot of shit in not so long past, the advice of day is to focus only about maters

*===*Let us count how many times rena will say the exact same thing, after hq's post. (2 so far)

u trying to be constructive?

Hell no! Like ten people asked rena to explain his position on different matters and he always finds lame excuses to leave the subject. Nothing constructive there, nothing constructive here.

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if im seeying it wrong please do explain me what u mean,im dont see other things beside than u do pick on one of us meintored or meybe both

I am picking only at Rena and about the same thing i picked on him on the "I quit" thread or "Rank rule proposal" thread.

I just posted this for kicks, don't want to derail the discussion above for this.

do u know that u said that u r prick?

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its mater a lot couse nobody willing to pull heand first