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Nolte009 wrote:

i told u to play or go cuz server was full... ffs. all saw it too. as for anyone calling u a cheater, i saw none. i saw u talking to HELLO, and that was it. stop the lies dude. it's pathetic.

well im not but it was to late time to server be full most euro ppl sleep at 12 and there was another 1 spect ,look i dont wanna fight with u ,i dont have problems with ,but i want u to know its bad for reputation and u saw what u did to me

i followed server admin rules. simple as that. nothing more happened, and once again...... there are server logs to prove anything u wanna deny here. but it's like u wanna make a fool out of urself, so go ahead... i am done with this lol.

i dont wanna make a fool of my self ,i dont even know u

Sorry skull, i dont agree with you. I've seen the demos you posted with care. I might not be too skilled, however, i think i have good analysing capabilities to give opinions. Also, i'm not supporting anyone blindly, and i actually can't say if they cheat or they don't, i'm just giving you pretty reasonable logical explanations to the "proof" you have encountered, and i'm telling you that all that "evidence" is circumstantial and that it is not enough to declare them guilty. Imo you watch the demos with the wrong premise, assuming that they are cheaters and trying to look for any proof, even the tiniest ones to backup your beliefs.

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first of all, all enemys he hit with rail his rail is NEVER in the middle, even if there is an enemy crouching on the ground he just hits the edge of enemy (risky way) instead of the middle (safe way) eventhough he has tons of time to aim.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4960/shot0097.jpg

That is very difficult to prove in these cases skull, because of their ping. Their ping is never less than 150, so what looks for us like shots in the corner with zero ping that is actually not the case.

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however his reactions are impossible too:

first moment he should recognise him:
http://img10.imageshack.us/i/shot0105f.jpg/
and a straight rocket:
http://img94.imageshack.us/i/shot0104.jpg/

Again skull, if you apply the player ping (around 150) on that shot you will notice that his crosshair wasn't actually over the player, it was ahead.

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but most clear its in this situation:
this plasma is due to weapon switch -> fine
http://img210.imageshack.us/i/shot0090.jpg/
here he crosses the hitbox -> fine
http://img697.imageshack.us/i/shot0092.jpg/
and fires a plasma while doing a 180 completly out of firerythm (plasma in plusn has around 120 msec reload, before and after he did have more then 200 msec to fire, look it up in demo if u dont belive
http://img251.imageshack.us/i/shot0093.jpg/

If you see that demo you will notice that they were just messing up playing with plasma in that moment. In the moment of your "proof", he was just messing up shooting in that place, where he suddenly listened the enemy and he reacted fast by flicking the plasma, which is perfectly explainable because most of the time you have the rail (or bfg in closed rooms) and when you are surprised when you are distracted its preferable to flick a shot hoping a lucky shot instead of wasting precious msec aiming and being dead. Also, if you watch closely, the plasma is not directed in the exact position where the enemy was, it missed the hitbox by a reasonable distance.

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btw, the reason why the autoshoot aint obvious anymore is thx to wasp.beast imo.

due to new netcode, shoots are just recognised every keyframe in demo, since its dok server, u just have a keyframe every 50 msec.

actually u would need to find a shoot exactly on a keyframe to have the autoshoot look exactly like autoshoot, couldnt find one exactly, but one with 3-4 msec delay towards a keyframe:
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7092/shot0103u.jpg

That has nothing to do with netcode, its just sv_fps set to low values like 20. Also, it is not obvious because they are not autoshooting

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Another strong argument to backup the fact they are not cheaters is their consistence, and you cannot deny it. They always shoot the rail with the right timing (they aim more time whey they have time, that's normal), and also they flick their shots pretty often, but for all the shots they make, they all look pretty natural. With the last i mean that the movement of the wrist and the action of the finger clicking the shoot button is always noticeable, even when they are aiming, and you skull that have more time busting cheaters than me knows perfectly that the absence of those natural movements are a key factor in saying if a player autoshots or not.

Yet another argument is the fact that their rail accuracy is not very impressive, and in the demos it doesn't appear any moment when they miss on purpose.

And lastly, you said that they reaction time was impossible and presented a couple of (really far-fetched and controversial) moments, but for those couple of moments that you presented in the demo you can watch several others when the enemy appears from corners and even when their crosshairs are exactly over them they don't shoot them. I know that a cheat can be enabled/disabled, but i dont think they can be that flexible from a second to the other one.

Stop speccing all the time, it's making me nervous ='[

Good Miss! Continue whit ENABLE the PB its good! and dont listen to the other faks that try 2 talk lots off shiat!

Regardz
ImpreZyve