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no comment.

hurrenson: "This idiot is apparently not familiar with a rail/sniper style."

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rUnThEoN?! wrote:

code us demos which would give out server sight. (as defrag servers use it already combinated with an demo analysing anti cheat system)

In first place, all demos have "server-side" pov, because they are made from the snapshots information, and the snapshots are sent by the server. What you actually meant is to implement playback that buffers demos and make them look like zero-ping. I've thought about this, but there is one problem: the ping information is not in the snapshots, so the only way to implement them are hardcoded, with maybe a cvar were you can put the amount of "ping" you want to simulate in the demo, and i don't like that implementation.

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at 240 he sees him first (note, not recognise, actually we are talking about that a gamer can go down to 130 msec if his whole screen flashes green), at around 300 he crosses the hitbox and fires a plasma at 350 (eventhough its already pinglate)

so yea, the only reason why this wouldnt be a moneyshot is simple because he uses plasma instead of rail? since plasma needs it way to fly so it doesnt hit?

I'm not saying that. What i'm saying is that he reacted to the sound of the switch (which btw because of his ping he would hear it delayed) and that he made a totally blind shot. Instinctively, he thought he had the rail (because he's not used to be messing up with plasma in the first case), thats the reason why he shot only once, but after some time at the end he realized that he had the plasma and begun spamming. The fact that he shot was on top of his hitbox was just luck.

rUnThEoN?! wrote:

oh and, before u wonder, also here his mouse starts behaving odd, after the nadejump, out of sudden it changes direction during the right move high to move just right at 150 like as if it would have bumped into a invisible limit.

Ofc its odd, he was messing up with plasma, so he's doing something that he is not used to.

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tell me what u see?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxW167pOs5M

don't mind me the title, it has nothjing to do with people inside this clip, just find it somehow funny Winking

Well, the only weird thing is that he only missed one time from 9 hits straight. However, none of the shots is a moneyshot imo. None of the shots has an inhuman reaction time. Also, in all of the shots the movement of the wrist and the hand when he makes the click is visible, so none of the shots doesn't look automatic. To me, the only shot that looks suspicious is the second, because i would expect in that situation to flick the rail instead of taking the time to aim, so it doesn't fit on the normal pattern of his gamestyle.

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I'm not saying he cheat or not, while taking neutral spot is quite odd to see 10 frags in a row and every of them are when the crosshair only touch the bounding box of a enemy model.

If u observe autoshoters u will notice they wait until gun fire, every normal person would shot in the first moment when crosshair is around enemy or spam enemy into the pieces. And well on the posted movie I see him waiting for auto-fire, of course it might be wrong, so do cl_avidemo 100 on these shots and judge yourself.

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animalchik wrote:

I'm not saying he cheat or not, while taking neutral spot is quite odd to see 10 frags in a row and every of them are when the crosshair only touch the bounding box of a enemy model.

If u observe autoshoters u will notice they wait until gun fire, every normal person would shot in the first moment when crosshair is around enemy or spam enemy into the pieces. And well on the posted movie I see him waiting for auto-fire, of course it might be wrong, so do cl_avidemo 100 on these shots and judge yourself.

I know what you mean, and im telling you that the only shot with those characteristics is the second one, where i dont know for what reason did he wait that long to shoot the enemy, but in all the others shots that's not the case. It just looks like that because of his ping.

Ok, lets do something then. If you give me some days i'll code the demo buffer thing exactly as i wrote in my previous post, with a cvar to control the ping to apply to the demo, to make analysis of demos from high-pingers more fair to watch.

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good job there camel, talking to dee surely was a genious move.

about mohammed: his odd style of gaming, especially that he hit same insane shoots or more insane shoots then the other people clearly show he was using it too.

hurrenson: "This idiot is apparently not familiar with a rail/sniper style."

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would be great if u also code this in-mod-anti-cheat thingy i asked you about once, even if it would just work on people who have installed the mod Sad

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actually , i dont agree with you camel , how u build such a dicision on dees' speech ?

i think he was on drug , i didnt admit cheat yet!!!

also , from Slavin video , why did the LG miss the enemy hitbox.

will u explain me pls

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█< *DAVIDSON wrote:


i didnt admit cheat yet!!!

yet?

Surprise

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OXYGEN wrote:

█< *DAVIDSON wrote:

i didnt admit cheat yet!!!

yet?

:o[/b]

busted Big grin

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come on Oxy , its serious i think

and what were you sitting here silently waiting such mistakes , Lolingers