The Torzelan Saga: Tooting the Tifs \m/

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Heh, hi InfiniTop. That's a mighty hypocritical post you got there, well done Happy

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...A lot of generic stuff people write when they don't have better arguments

Yeah thanks, we know. Now on to the last ten percent of your post.

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You join a cool and funny resource like a game server, use this free resource, even get fun from it, and than you repay this by spreading mud upon the players inside, insulting people and calling names, and for the best, even directly insulting the admins and the server owner itself?

Selective reading rules. Don't put words in my mouth and don't complain about certain parts while ignoring other larger ones.

Let's use the word "mud" as it seems popular. Now, the "mud" I spread... Do you know what it consists of? It consists of the players and THEIR acts, and this would be very clear to anyone. If they behaved better and more mature, what I would spread would be something else. You get what you give, but know what? I'm repeating myself, though only as it seems you missed it the first time. To put it even simpler: If I played there, and they didn't do all the dumb crap they do, I wouldn't say they do it. Whoa, what a concept ey.

I will not apologize for calling names in this case when they so thoroughly earned it. This fine, proud family can stand for their actions, right?

Directly insulting the admins - yep. Same thing as above goes; you get what you give. If there is doubt, I have already mentioned that I have more recordings and screenshots of how they handle things. How THEY, as ADMINS, deliberately mess the teams up and start shouting only when they are at disadvantage. How they abuse their status to make the server their own little playground by threats ("you know i can ban you, right?" (c) FASTER) and randomly kick every now and then when no rule in the world has been broken except for possibly some unwritten "Thou may not get this score in this amount of time; for it is Impossible."

Directly insulting the server owner? Which part? The "T.i.f.s is a really cool dude"? Or "As I have been careful to state at all times, you are alright"?

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Do you know how they say? You are NOT forced to buy this. And it's free, so you neither have to BUY and pay.
You don't like it? Well, the Internet is big enough for everyone, so go away anywhere you like. And close the door, when you do.

Wait. So where's the part where you are not forced to like what I'm writing here then? Hey, if you want, you can "go away anywhere you like. And close the door, when you do."

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No problem this way: sounds like we have different likings. World is good because it's various. No problem at all.

Yep, it's all good, butterflies and sunflowers and free cookies for all. ...then why are you complaining about uh, "my liking"?

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But you can't INSULT anyone. That's NOT good. For NO reason.
That's the opposite of democracy.
That's the Internet death.

THANK YOU for adding this, for it is the very foundation of what makes you look clueless and defends everything I have said.
Hint: What have I received in mad quantities in there, which is the source of all this?

While thanking you for all the times YOU personally have also accused me of cheating, I'll let your own ending be mine aswell.

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Think about this.

P.S - Yes mad, this should most definitely be split Happy

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T.i.f.s wrote:

What did I do wrong?

Having callvote kick and no force team balance Happy

No really, nobody is throwing mud at your server, just at some of the people there.

As you said yourself, your server is a nice place to come and relax a bit, shoot a bit, and generally have fun.

And i dont find it fun when im fooling arround, and then some idiot like "anticamper patrol" comes over and starts teamshooting me for, god forbid, defending the flag.

I am proud of spreading a pirated Excessive Plus version and claim to be the original author, yay!

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T.i.f.s wrote:

Try to get inside a theatre on a car. And look at people behaviour. And that would be exactly what players like Torz do when coming to low-skill-servers.
So will it be insulting behaviour in relation from Torz to other visitors? I think it will. Why did he come? He already knew which kind of players are there and what do they play for.
So will it be insulting behaviour in relation from other visitors to Torz? Sure. Because their game, their nice evening is ruined.

Wow, well if this is official then, I recommend adding this to your MOTD:
"Good players not allowed. You ruin our fun."

It's interesting how in NO other server in any game except this server, playing better (or not even that; just plain getting more frags or higher accurracy or whatever) has never equaled being "insulting". It's a very, very far-fetched link.

As for "coming to low-skilled servers", well aww thank you for putting me on a high horse for me, that's a new one. I have said to everyone that asked, and as far as I can remember told you personally, that I enjoy the maps and config. I never, in any gametype in any game, cared who I play against.

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Shame him for premeditated come to my server and causing players to become angry (and later to behave in a such way).

This can't be for real Big grin Your players inability to cope with some one actually shooting them when they do their "spawn, bfgjump, wallride, repeat x infinity" is what causes them to become angry, and their behaviour can NOT be blamed on me when I do nothing unallowed.

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But what was really painful for me - is a lots of really BAD words in side of my server and people relative to it.

Excuse me, but "boho". You know what is "really painful for me"? *sniffle sniffle*. The exact same thing. The source is not me, and you are consistently directing your energy at the wrong person. THAT is the one thing you are responsible for in your own server, HOWEVER in this very sentence lies the reason why it is your full choice and right to do so. Unfortunately, this does not stretch outside your server, and you cannot get any sympathy or dictate how other people should think here.

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He could write about behaviour but he DIDN'T HAS TO write those words. I never expected that.

This probably has a nice technical term that I should learn, but the gist of it is "hey, let's focus on a very small and irrelevant part so that the rest may be forgot".

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Tell me Torz I really deserve them? What did I do wrong?

Deserve what? Reread. I've said nothing but nice things about YOU. The people I have NOT said nice things about, do not deserve nice things. What you do wrong, I've already written. Go to your "family" and take a nice long look.

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I did play often there, with 4 out of the 5 admins Tifs mentioned. They didn't kick me or insulted me. Well, Gezooh asked me to actually capture the flag and not just rail-defend.
Maybe it's not important, just wanted to leave note..

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U just have no heart. May be rail instead of it. Hope all those people who post here as well and glorify and support you entirely, got a heart though. Somewhere deep inside.

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Nice retort, crushing. All server admins, watch and learn. Closing your eyes and walking away from problems is the way of the future.

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Nice retort, crushing. All server admins, watch and learn. Closing your eyes and walking away from problems is the way of the future.

Look at yourself here. You see? They're already laughing of you. Everyone is understanding where the problem is but you. Please find a heart and come again. Thanks.

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I would retort, except I'd say the exact same thing, word by word. Maybe not the heart thing.

So! Let's stop. The only thing there is now is that you either read what people are saying, or not. Either way, you have told me to not come back, and I have promised not to. Nothing more to achieve over here.

- THE END -
*lights fade in*

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Why i rent servers?
- Because i want to have a place where i have fun to play.

Why i take care of peoples needs?
- Because i dont want to have servers where i dont find people to play against.

Sometimes it is hard to be an admin of a popular server, because as more people u have on your server as more complaints u get. For example, i am allergic on the word "lag". Even if the people just mean that "they" lag, i take it often as critic on the server. But i have to live with it. But there are also people with serios problems on my servers.

Especially people from poland with adsl and people from sweden had higher pings as they should have. For example SWE-Saint had a ping of 150, while he had on a other server on the same location a ping of 60. I did contact the server provider, i did contact people with bad connections, and we didnt had a solution for months, and this really got on my nerves, because the serverprovider didnt found any mistake. Last week we installed a new linux-kernel, because our Main-Server-"Admin" found out, that the old kernel isnt optimized for gameservers. And since we installed the kernel, people like SWE-Saint dont have a ping of 150 anymore, they have now arround 60. And this is a point again, why i have fun to be admin, when we found finally a solution after months.

I also have people with who i have personall problems, but this is no reason for me, to kick/ban them. I also have wordfights with the ones or others. But all this has nothing to do with the servers, and i let them be.

And if i c, how much work i have to keep the servers "good" and "clean" and "free" of morons i am sad to c u "tiffs" how u handle ur server. All that work to have a server, where new players, who have simply a good aim, get kicked by callevote and admins, just because they have a good aim.

The callvote-command is pretty variable. While u can allow the poeple to vote maps, u can dissallow at the same time to callvote for kick. And this is the point i really want to suggest you. Dissallow callvote for kick. "k" and "b" are commands just for admins or refs. Give ur admins and refs a clear guidline to avoid problems.

Personally i run 3 popular servers:
- 2!S Freeze, my most important baby pb and pure 24/7
- 2!S 1on1, pb and pure 24/7
- 2!S FFA!, My newbiecatcher to bring fresh meat to the mod (no pb and no pure)

- 2!S TDM, currently a server i dont know what to do with, but i will find something for it.

And if something happens on one on this servers, i am pretty happy if someone reports it to me. Sure it is better via PM, but also via public discuss, i have the chance to show, that i take the interests of people serios.

Anyway tifs, its your server u can decide.

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So! Let's stop. The only thing there is now is that you either read what people are saying, or not. Either way, you have told me to not come back, and I have promised not to. Nothing more to achieve over here.

- THE END -
*lights fade in*

hurrah! (unsubscribing from the topic...)