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Maybe Torz is indeed destroying the fun for you Tifs ppl. But acting like this, you guys destroy something much more important - the good spirit of polite competitiveness. You dont even have the balls to apologize to Torzy. No respect and regards to the lot of ye. Go rot in your small little callvote world.

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The callvote-command is pretty variable. While u can allow the poeple to vote maps, u can dissallow at the same time to callvote for kick. And this is the point i really want to suggest you. Dissallow callvote for kick. "k" and "b" are commands just for admins or refs. Give ur admins and refs a clear guidline to avoid problems.

These two pretty much sum it up for me.

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Personally my only real problem is that grzehoo dude. I bet that if you search the logs for "autoshoot" and "cheat" half or more are his. The rest of the guys "anticamp patrol" admins etc are just for laughs imo.

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I'm sorry, i cant see ANYWHERE ANYONE saying to him "Hey man, look, we're not even near your skill level. Could you please do a /quit? It's not really all that fun playing against someone so good as you. cmon man."

That's the point.
People can have different points of view, but that's the point.
Did you follow the 2004 F1 Championship?
The Championship was mathematically closed by Ferrari at his half, just becouse the "Red Ones" were at a differet level, so they overpowered all the others.
Sure, a huge victory, a great force demo. But Boring.
So much boring to convince the federation to change some rules to avoid such a boring championship in future.
Here is the same.
One too skilled player (or a cheater, the effect is the same) makes the whole gaming boring.
Not good.
That's all.
Hi!

I agree.. before i use to play on the tifs, berlin, and doener those are all great servers. anway. i Use to play there and camp. i've never did a cap, i just stayed in the same spot and practised my aim, after a time i got better and scored up to 400 in a round. and i constantly hear the word cheating, camper etc etc.. this upset the players who only play for fun. A lame player join and ruin their game. I think thats the way they look at it..

So i got kicked and banned from several ctf-servers bcos of that.. (callvoted)
Then i learn the rule, admin gemini and faster made me understood how to play without upseting the players, most of them are beginners. and some of them are actally pretty good. Metwo for instance. that guy is really a hi -q player. hehe. i acused him for cheating. But no.. he is just better then me.. he really is. When a player comes to a server whetever he/she is good or not. He/she have to be aware of the servers rules, policy, and etc etc.. if they're not followed players get a callvote and kicked. Bcos its simply upsets people and ruin the fun of the game. (there is also lots of unwriten rules, and they are there for keep the game balanced so everyone can enjoy.)

and please dont use a covernick, once i callvoted tartaros, bud i didnt knew it was him, i am sorry for that. if i knew i woulndt. i know he is a great player. Predjucie is wrong.. just bcos a player is good, doesnt mean he cheat.

I feel sorry for the inconvenience between torzelan and the involved players. i just hope this didnt make things worse. But sure. everyone have to speak their mind. But dont turn things ugly with sarcasm and blaming. Its just make things worse. Is it really worth it? this is just a game. Have in mind that cheating, camping, bad behavior is a part of this popular multiplayer-game. When i see such things i quit. and spend the time with my friends and talk with my girlfriend. that makes me feel better. Bcos getting upset by a game is really not worth it. :roll:

uhm...before i read 4 pages..

is this topic really about someone blaming torz to be a cheater?

good for postcount, nothing more

ok, i think the point had been more than made on both sides.