BUT gibs honey, that little time makes hell of a diff, and if your on a server and instead of the usual 50 ping for example, you get from 60 up to 150, its obvious its the servers connection, obviously not the server itself most of the time. then you get spikes and it starts to be nasty, so lag can be a bitch, depends on the type.

if i go to gibs frozen now, i will get 150 ping, means i'll play normal and pretty well, then on mr freeze usually 49 ping so i will obviously play better, but only a little better.

now lets say on gibs i have a 150 ping, then on mr freeze i have a 150 ping im certainly going to play better on gibs, because the connection is more stable

pb do make lags, huge when he scan a client and lite to kep watching client it is aceptable but pb do make lags

@gib u saying its is players problem and thier fool, well the server conetion to the internet is more important that the players connection couse server with 12 slots rate 25000 and sv_fps 20-40 taking around 60-120KB/s of upstream badwitch,.. and the client in the same time uing his 5-10KB/s of upstream badwitch

also if the server PC its a cheap PC it make latency higer iven lags sometimes

memy ppl do think that server badwitch can be taken i 100% and that is not true, around 80% of usage the server will be make lags

if server also runing mail http ftp server this will make lags also, if some players will ping server his bdadwitch will reduced also, and all gamesrching programs do ping servers......

client packets must travle internet thoud hops/routers in net, funcionality and badwitch taken of these hops it taking somtimes huge deference in ping or packet lost, everybody can do tracert to a server to watch on what hop they lose mutch of time

we do use few defenition of a lag but only one in mine eyes is corect

lag is when packed send or resived were skiped couse was not send or recive on time, game its look jerky enemies jumping on server for ya like on electric chear and the same u do for them look like, it is barely unplayable for both sides, and couse unlagged technology and dls standard where upstream have lower badwitch somtimes for a laging guy its give adventage couse he is seeing u prety well and he for u is a wanishing poit, it is not easy for lagging gut with upstream problem to rail somebody but to guy who try to aim laging guy is very hard to do that

high latency coused of long distance packet travel, in mine eyes is not a lag but can make it laggy when not all packet will be delivred on time
it is playable on high latency but some isures going there also, if yor oponet have lover ping than u and u both shoth in the same time the server will do think that oponent with lover ping was shot faster than u, sometimes it hapens to me that im shot a guy im turning around and then im realized im dead, iven sometimes i see on freze frozen by me enemies but short time layter i am frozen not the enemy

btw sry im not used colored fonts

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sometimes it hapens to me that im shot a guy im turning around and then im realized im dead, iven sometimes i see on freze frozen by me enemies but short time layter i am frozen not the enemy

Maybe there is a trouble with your *predict* settings?!

But I have same "problems" I get fragged (frozen), and 1 sec later Im alive again, as though I didnt die.

Btw. skilled players can use lag to frag easily, except the opponent has high lag...

My best ping on servers is ~120 but Im happy to be an e+!er, we have cool unlagged servers + a damn lethal railgun!

I preapared to write a long post but it seems almost all theorotical details are given. Yes lag is not all about ping, they have a correlation which I will expain below.

I ll try to list some practical conclusions:

· With high pings you mite start to lag depending on your game style. I mean switching. If you switch too hard, maybe switch 5 weapons in a second, your upstream is getting much bigger then -the best case here is camping&railing only ;p. Those all packets cant be delivered with 100% failure-free considering the distance. After CRC check fails, your PC is asked to drive packets to the way(not sure). You see this as lag in your lagometer.

So? Dont switch too much if your packets are travelling on off quality hops. (read above about this) Personally, my trace to Euro servers are disappointing that is the hops/routing/materials etc.. through some certain servers are sucky:/ Sometimes my packets travel all over Europe rofl. which is due to all damn ISP.
Whileas I can play smoother on some US servers, less hops but more latency of course.

· Your guna loose matches in duel with high ping; your enemy's packets are much quicker than yours, thats why. Every milisecond is essential there esp when you play vs guys with nice reflexes.
The most proper game type would be FFA with lotta peeps.

· You can try to work on some tweaks, but those are not major factors as others. I mean its more handy for LPBs not for us. Some indispendible setttings like packetdub, rate, snaps are already known I suppose.

· You should not be surpised if beaten by someone with 300+ ping[BRO cfg of course]. I felt quite fine even with 600 ping on an Aussie server. Which was not lagging, needless to add.