About Ina and all the other related stuff

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26. October 2006 - 16:25
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Mow, maybe you don't know what pressure is - you don't have to sit around a persons head to make him feel pressure;

I clearly know what pressure is, maybe better as the most in here.

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pressure of not being able to live up to expectations, not out of her fault (the failed training); pressure of knowing that clan needs wins, yet not being able to do absolutely anything at all because of this; pressure of your good friend leaving clan, and being ripped between loyalty to clan and loyalty to friend.

She could have had always speak about that with me. I am not an ass. I also listened to her tons of personal probs, and tried to give good advises. Maybe u know about what i am speaking.

I was good enough to speak about her personal probs but....

[quoteYou self pawned yourself with the second point - where was the lack of support, while you admit you were hard on her, and even allowed FF to bash heads with her :roll:

rofl, no i did not.

i had some hard words after she left us. I was sad and angry at the same time.

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Why should you not be disappointed? Because she gave all she has, she sincerily loves 2!S. And you don't give a fuck. You don't even notice that.

I dont give a fuck. How u can know that? U have no idea, how sad i am since she left us. Maybe u dont give a fuck of the other side of view.

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There are a few other facets of this whole shebang, but it's Ina's own call to bring it out.

w8ing

anyway, again, nobody "bashed" her before she left. at least, not that i know it.

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26. October 2006 - 16:27
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I dont have to proof anything to you, skull.

I am there for my members, they know what they have at me, and i know what i have at them. And i am pretty lucky to have quiet a lot very loyal members, at least all who are still in 2!S.

This thread is just going to isulate me more from the community, more and more.

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26. October 2006 - 16:33
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She could have had always speak about that with me. I am not an ass. I also listened to her tons of personal probs, and tried to give good advises. Maybe u know about what i am speaking.

I was good enough to speak about her personal probs but....

Maybe she had a reason not to speak about it? Didn't thought of that? Shouldn't it be your job to notice stuff like that?

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rofl, no i did not.

i had some hard words after she left us. I was sad and angry at the same time.

I know you two had a few minor clashes before that happened. One of the pressure building factors.

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I dont give a fuck. How u can know that? U have no idea, how sad i am since she left us. Maybe u dont give a fuck of the other side of view.

Good. Good to know you care. But if you do, you shouldn't be angry at her. You should try to understand why she left, and maybe do so that she comes back.

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26. October 2006 - 16:37
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This thread is just going to isulate me more from the community, more and more.

I certainly hope that won't be the case. You are a good guy, and a precious community member, and regardless of what will be said here, you have my respect. Just so no-one will confuse my reasons for this thread - i'm not here to attack you, just to put a stop of Ina being treaten like a betrayer.

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26. October 2006 - 16:40
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I need to work that lost out first for myself. My first reaction was harsh, pretty harsh. I am like i am. I always react with high emotions in the first time. Also in the reallife.

But what u do here, without any facts, is a very big and hard accusing.

I will w8 for facts, to bring up facts against it! Even if i have to w8 for leukos post!

Maybe i dont have against all facts opposite facts.

But i am not the mainfactor in that relation.

Back to 2!S. After this thread not possible anymore.

Betrayer? roflmao, are u kidding me? omg

Looking out for facts and leukos post.

Greetz

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26. October 2006 - 16:43
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I dont have to proof anything to you, skull.

nope u dont have too.
but maybe all that sharing my opinion are thinking bad about u will think bad a about u if u dont do.
i dont care i will think bad about u until u changed so i can think different about u.

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I am there for my members, they know what they have at me, and i know what i have at them. And i am pretty lucky to have quiet a lot very loyal members, at least all who are still in 2!S.

its good to have loyal members, but they have to fit the clan.
i think now that ina just fitted 9/10 of the players in the clan
if 2 persons dont fit its:
(quote):"there isnt enough space for us in here."

so one has to go

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This thread is just going to isulate me more from the community, more and more.

thats what u think.
i personally dont like u, but im not the whole community, so u cant count me as the whole community.

hurrenson: "This idiot is apparently not familiar with a rail/sniper style."

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26. October 2006 - 16:44
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mow Q [EN] wrote:

I need to work that lost out first for myself. My first reaction was harsh, pretty harsh. I am like i am. I always react with high emotions in the first time. Also in the reallife.

But what u do here, without any facts, is a very big and hard accusing.

I will w8 for facts, to bring up facts against it! Even if i have to w8 for leukos post!

Maybe i dont have against all facts opposite facts.

But i am not the mainfactor in that relation.

Back to 2!S. After this thread not possible anymore.

Mow, i am here without Ina's approval, she did not in any way asked me to stir this up, i did this on my own account. I gave you all i am able to give, if it's not enough to make you change your mind, than i failed. Maybe Ina herself will want to add something, but it's not up to me.

IF what you're saying is that the doors back to 2!S are closed because of me for Ina, i will immediately delete all my posts and appologize - that's the last thing i wanted to achieve here.

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26. October 2006 - 16:46
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w8ing for ina, thats all what i have to say, until she have posted (if i dont get forced again to defend 2!Drunk

For 2!S and its members i break friendship with everybody! I dont care anymore my own reputation!

Just some persons know how i tic in real, most of them are 2!S.

and mad, u didnt even gave me any chance to understand why u posted that stuff. i asked u to come to msn, u didnt reacted, there u would have been able to show me some facts. Maybe the facts would have helped me to understand ur point, and maybe inas point, maybe i would have seen than all from a different view.

This thread as it is now, is pure offence!

This thread made me ready to give out all internal matters which would not speak only against me.

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26. October 2006 - 16:55
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ah, and u spoke about pan.

He was always loyal, told me about each prob he have, he communicated with me, that helped to find a solution for some probs. But we couldnt clean all probs, so it was his decission to leave. And he never lost respect of me, proove is the server burn have. Because of the communication, u understand?

Beeing always honest, is in 2!S all! That means all in 2!S.

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26. October 2006 - 16:59
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Betrayer? roflmao, are u kidding me? omg

This is funny for you, man? The fact that someone she's been looking up to is yelling at her? That her former mates are frowning when they see her? That Explo who was always nice to her suddenly is barking? That FF is going around saying she's about to join/already join DEVA? Did you thought for one second how SHE felt?

And you must be blind to not see my point.

About Pan, that is none of my business. I said how it looked like to me, and how would i feel if i was in your shoes.

edit - I aren't error free, i'm not always right. I'm just a human being. But i value people who i think of as friends, and Ina is one of those ppl for me. I will be defending her no matter what, against everything that's unfair to her. I am doing what i feel is right.

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