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ZeroQL (I guess bananaklan would know about zeroql since he got his shit from them lolol - infa 142.5%) in TDM.

shadyAK why u always need to put wrong information to make chaos and such stuff? : ] just wondering.
here i givey ou facts to not make again fails as u like to do x) (this isnt the first time u do so)
-1 zeroql is movie editor, and I asked to maverick to ask him about some movies he did made and how much they cost.-2 zeroql as far as i know is working with kostur in some pro ogranization, he has nothing to do with 3m since its focused in reviews and cs game.-3 90% of our members dont even know who is zeroql x)-4 non from 3m clan, NEVER talked with zeroql except me (about movies i have emails) and kostur (since they both work in some org called ¿ducks? or smth, i bet you know more since u are the eZportz mazta no? : ]
so explain me please, what you was trying to tell here with your infa 142.5% : ]

hello.

well, what we see in this post? dialog of 3 players, who checking security server or something.

big wonder why pb or acp not kicked cheater.

big difference between talk about cheats and use it. any proof that kerl or trance use it? guess no.

but i dont care about it. i leave q3 few month ago.

ps: 2 all IS members and any teams with whom I have played - i never use or have some kind of this shit. (cheats)

good luck.

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Benedykt didn’t like it and in my address I got some bad sayings about -
"you were a terrible rank admin and a horrible moderator".

Still
think that same. Started trated to think that when BOykins was catched
with magic "cvar" You discretly hide whole subject under carpet. Lets
see

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Boykins

Status: Yellow Card ( 20.02.2012 )

Reason: Disallowed Autoshoot Cvar

Duration: Permanent.

Bopoh - ok he showed that probably he didnt know that he have cheat cvars in
TGK - was in whole clan what was cheating xD
skillz
members - various suspection for cheating. sometimes proven sometimes
not. Was giving RED, taking back them, YELLOW etc etc. true caleidoscope
durring your time in RANK MOD team.
In some middle of that time,
from one of those catched players, i heard that he had it from another
one but wouldnt say anything. Mostly with russians was talking kerl
Darky aslo likes to talk with every1 who is actually attention whore. I
started collecting infos and try to find who is cheating.

Did
you or any other RANK MOD even once tried to find cheat or get it from
catched player with who you was asking to check that other servers are
protected from them?
(Camel if you dont remember about me )Or you
just want to have some power at forum xD Like camel said to me once that
he is still Forum moderator, because wants only checking IPs xD
what
was reason for you to became RANK MOD? to know about that the rank mods
talking about your cheating friends in private or something else? I
will remember you about that, you same as actual rank squad was
controversal. In cheatreport dicussion thread was tons of fight words
because of yours few decissions or not so good speculations One thing
what i was like in you, was that you was acting very polite as rank mod
not as asshole what you are when you was/are not xD
In my
oppinion RANK MODS should do much more than only acceept Wars and gives
red/yellow card when some1 will report it to them. Also giving
red/yellow should by done by community or some more amount of players
than 2 or or four. As ref+ you wanted to do smething visable at
forum, as RANK you FAILED.

K, back to subject. I cannot remember
directly in what screenshot or report i found Cvar or Cheat.exe what
started to interest me. It was bullseye. btw. where are evidences of
boykins? someone clean them or only i cannot find them at forum? Sry, i
will maybe find them later at forum. Ok, I found that cheat by googling
some time (whoa! i became cheater). I was checking configuration of
servers and dumping what console was telling me. STRANGE, you as
PunkBuster warrior form rank moderation team had weakest configuration
from all servers xD I can imagine what is that pain in the ass when you
are super cool and pro ranking and know, or SPECIALY do nothing in case
of security of servers

Part of proofs, where you see that kerl
or trance said that they are using it ;> Because in topic you wrote
its me and them. Explain, i listen You can recive title of attention
whore.
You think you are smart cuz you noticed date and time? leaved
it specialy for you, i was hope you will try to think who was banned
near to that time, because of you i was try to find them, maybe ask me
about more infos. Or wait a minute? maybe you recognize it and do not
want to solve that case so you will report me?

Lets follow
conversation... At start you can recognize that i was doing screens
For what cheater need to prove that he is using cheat? Simple stupid, i
wasnt cheating anyone durring this game. I was checking my suspections
about that by this cheat any1 was able to cheat at your server. Here
comes question to you or server admins. Why the hell you use so weak
punkbuster configuration at some servers, when at second one you use
much better one? Especialy when that better one detect all features of
Cheat directly after connect... but except wallhack? wallhack is only
one cvar what isnt present in configuration. I had only two conclusion.
Since wallhack command is tunred off when you became online, then maybe
Camel or other server admin left to Online checking some kind of
backdoor? Yes, in past ;-] if you was know RCON you was able to
wallhacking without any obstacles. How many of players was able to use
that? We already had once situation when Rcon went to third peoples.
Second conclusion was that, this was simple omission. If that second
option, iam pretty sure about that in some russian clan people was know
about that.
you catch that i said iam linux user, and in log is
writen that iam at windows ;-] also there is writen that i never played
from windows. Many players from here can confirm that i Plays quake
since 2007 from Linux. I do not need windows OS for anything (except
cheating at e+ servers for sure!) ))
i do not understand this one: 1072:51say: quit: easy some1 will show it to them after month or longer 2 (OLOLOLOLOLOL)
no one comes there to cheat. guys was helping me to that it works
online or not. simple this means that i was want to tell community about
this. I was want to wait some time and collect evidences for those
russian cheaters.
Why i didnt do that officialy at forum then?
Skullhead maybe remember our conversation about security level at our
servers. It was at IRC, maybe at banana channel or in private
conversation there. I told him that i suspect few russians for that they
can use wallhack. What i heard from him? That he lost motivation to
catching and proving anythiong to others. This is in BIG shortcut. I do
not remember that i told him even that i suspect some1 from rankmods. I
was rly carefully, to no1 said any nickname as i remember. But still can
be wrong. It was so long time ago ;-] I was also talking about bunch of
cheaters with camel once. You are interested what i hear? that same
what from skull. They both didnt care anymore. If they both dont care
;-] not try to continue it with me, then why i need to care about that? I
or WE, letf this case behind the scene to not making drama. Also i
wasnt able to play so much and watching and analysing demos from games
of russian clans. I had important Exam
matura soon, So we as IS
start to becaming IA from srping and summer.

As you can see, I
wasnt want to cheat any1, but if no1 cares about cheaters here then i
also do not see sense in it. Also i remind you that, here is no any
evidence of that some1 was cheating every1 can write "i see thru
walls" and after half year bring back logs xD I would like to say it by
this way: I used this software, only to check security level of server,
and was want to protect community form unfair players. But when most
trustable players around here do not care. then i fuck it I do not be
sure, but also to epsi at irc maybe i was talking about case of bunch
of cheaters. Rly dont remember with who else. With CAMEL and SKULLHEAD i
was talking for sure. Does cheater want to cath other cheaters? Or is
talking about his cheat with others? Simple, iam not in any ABUSE E+
TEAM (we should have one, cuz rank mods do nothing - their position is
more representant than practic), iam not rank mod... but i was want to
do something good and better for community - like always. Iam here since
few years, how many players i helped here? Suprise for you FPS ;-] you
told something like that i never was or will be RANK MOD. I think, to
became Rank Mod, player need to have a lot of time and a lot of
curiosity for it. I guess it was long time before you became Rank Mod,
but epsi was talking with me about it at IRC.

If some1 want ban
me or my two mates for cheating with wallhack. Please bring here
Skullhead and force him to analyze few of our randomly Clan Wars as
Insta Stars. I spend here much time for became part of this community,
gives much more for Insta Stars. It would be my last wish I think I
as good member of this comunity deserved for it. If he dont find
nothing, then leave them alone, and ban only me.

i will use opportunity to give some tips.

Like
epsi posted, and i supported him, and you FPS NOT ;] start to using one
filehosting for demos and screenshots. Best solution should be FTP. but
for multiple referees, i think also good will be dropbox.
Referee
will put demos and screens in folder with example
/2012/plus/28-11-2012_MR-2_0-JUMPS/ and it will be uploaded automaticly
From Dropbox with account files not disapires, and he has good upload
tool/manager. This will ptrotect from losing tons of demos uploaded to
speedyshare and similar 30days hosting. Actually some part of demos are
unavailable because of that issue. How to evidence something if we dont
have demo and have suspections? cannot ;-]

second. use 'centered'
servers or forum for sharing server configurations. Yep, Use one
Hosting, or simple share between you server configurations. It will help
kept community more secure. RSQT server was had probably biggest
md5tool from all i think I saw only AIM+ PB configuration. it was
looking pretty good for me as newbie.

start to use properly PB.
Configure it for making screenshots from players. I think it is only way
to detect undetectable cheats for PB like some wallhacks (this one from
screens, logs is detectable. need only to configure PB)

Make
team with players who have some knowledge about cheats and pure. let
them decide about cheaters and suspected for it. put there players what
wants to catch them, not only judge. atm rank mods are incompetent for
that job.

Its last post from my side at forum until case will be
ended. If you will ban me, i will be satisfacted by rules i deserve
for it, but i never cheated anyone in game. (maybe by shot one
enter/exit from room and hide in second around corner with gauntlet) I
hope that my ban will open your eyes on case of other players wich are
cheating around here and laughting from you after your backs. I hope
also that in some1 eyes i will be still bene who was want better for e+
all the time. Also i will be happy because of trolls here wich ones will
feed their ego durring ride on me and my mates and my clan
I will be satisfacted also if you ban that FPS asshole too xD iam sure that some1 from his friends was using this

cheers to all my opponents in game was pleasure to play against you and do 50% acc xD

GG GL HF ETC and rail4ever

/disconnected

My two cents:

In this all situation, Bene and kerl with trance, ONLY wanted to show that in server jumpsland, players can use wallhack without problems, then as far as i know he reported that to camel via teamspeak. (No messures were taking, and no one posted anything in e+) in my opinion this is bad, since this should be reported inmidiatly in e+ and we would fix the pb.

I for my self, can say 100% that bene, trance and kerl didn't cheated in any cws or fws, that we played together 3mvsIS. I can even tell you that kerl and trance are standart players who dont cheat, i played vs them 1vs2 (won with high score) many times and i didnt noticed any cheats NEVER ever (i have good eye on who cheat or not ask sql or fala), about bene he is just nab without cheats even if he with luck makes 50acc but who dont make it from good/top players here?

In all this mess and during my experience here in e+, i can only trust my members and few other ppl from this mod, others for me are untrustable (not about cheats) but about ''trust'' and giving a hand for them.

I agree that using , even testing cheats in ''ONLINE'' should be penalized, but giving a red card to them, for me its ridiculos, bene did many stuff for e+ (even if at the begining we hated each other, isnt bene? u kurwska morda <3) but at the end we become good mates and we talk, and discuse the e+.

I shall agree bene that, you should before doint this stuff, report it to some trusted person, like epsi, camel, sql, or someother (better to let few know) about what you gonna do and your intentions, and after the test with cheats, report the issue of the server in e+. Hiding the information was wrong imo, and now jumpsland is closed, many stuff is lost.

yes its true, that many of us stoped to care about cheaters and or going into investigations about suspicious players, but its because e+ dont give a fuck about the work and trolls a lot stupid stuff back to you. Currently rank mods, shall decide and make the investigations, ips check, log checks, talk with posible friends of the suspicions player, making all the information to become one, to be 100% sure of your intentions that ''that player'' is cheater.

Talking like hey you know i have a ss he is cheater, or i have ip and im sure that this player is the old cheater (before going in that road) pls RE CHECK your information from different ways and views. Acussing a player is easy, showing facts, isnt easy even if you are sure he is cheater.

Actualy now, and currently we have cheaters in e+ yes we do, who they are? well this duty should do the rank mods, and not just rank the games, being rank mod is making a research constantly of new information about a player that you are suspectiong of being a cheater.

Back on topic, for hiding the information and not giving it at proper time to make easy the investigation about jumpsland server and not advicing ''heads of e+'' about your plans that you are going test cheats in server to see if it works or not, I would give just red card for 3 of them and a ban periode of 1 or 2 months maximum.

Keep in mind, that those guys wanted to make smth good, but which at the end wasnt good prepared, thinked, and lead into the wrong way, now we have this consecuences.

Ok that ppl want to test the servers for their stability and such, but before making this better advice the admin of that server and rank mods about what you are going to do and for what you are going to do that, i can tell you that with or without pb or with pure or without it, ppl can still play with cheats (but for thise you will need a deep research into the topic about cheats) also ppl can easy buy cheats, which i bet going to work in all of our servers :]

YOU cant never be safe, but you can have a grupe of ppl who can analize the demos, the information about the player and his past, information about that player in other games, and such, to make the final statment. Ofc pb, amp, pure will help in 90% vs playrs without knowlage but vs players that are smart, you will ALWAYS need the help of the human who plays a lot this game, knows each pixel of it.

This is my opinion, i might be wrong in some parts and correct in others, but this is what i think as member of e+, things could be better, but this is what we have in e+.