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Benedykt, Trance, Kerl caught using wallhack
16. December 2012 - 23:30
#71
Re: Benedykt, Trance, Kerl caught using wallhack
"The only thing in what everybody here have no doubts is that you lie all over around and using WH." - 
one lie to prevent drama what you already did about anonymous email xd
"Next time, before using cheats, you may think twice." can i ask for what people uses cheats? maybe for keeping adventage above the opponents? do i ever do that? NO. I never feel needing to cheat against any1 
"Before trying to accuse me, ebashu, rengen or anybody else from jumps, take a look at your clan." - its not only mine accusation. its also from minimum one member of super secretly anticheat team. we can imagine shame for e+ rm team if they will accuse member of jumps in public D: and that accusation was much before soundhack and wallhack issue ;-]
"Benedykt - wallhack; Boykins - autoshot Cvar; Trance - supporting cheater; Kerl - supporting cheater; Equinox - using soundhack; Zarzyn - using soundhack; Terror - using soundhack (the only one not denieng doing that shit lol, rest as usually are clear)" if you call me cheater, prove that. You have demos available, you do not want watch them. Why? cuz you and similar players know that i was i am and will be clean as a tear. "soundhack" 
go deeper. now we have pure servers think twice about that in past was possibility to use them, now its ended. RM have forum dump (first moment - excitment, second - test, check with what we are dealing, third - ok its bad), where all included players said that they not using that (because of different feelings than in past years of playing) but they pointed that gives an adventage. think about that others was able to using it since year(
. only because of eqx it was publicated by this way. btw. you dont have knowledge about full case. that have only my clan and RM. but as i can see, you like to talk about things of wich you have no idea.
"Your and your clan reputation is already dead. Sad story about how don't
you trust rank mod and trying to accuse him with using Wh on his own
server is completly nonsese and full of lie." you can not belive, but its true and its fact. if its not true, then i was using cheats at other servers or at only this one more times durring game, yes? if thats true, prove that 
when you collect proofs 
call me
"Have no willing to discuss anything else with you, as far as we have a clear statement from RM." from that what i know, its official statment for now. but RM still work on that case, and everything can be changed, or leaved as it is. read: in fact its still open.
No1 here have time to check everything, and no1 want to do that probably. Its easier to ban me, than go deeper. for me that case with wallhack is only tip of iceberg. iam pretty sure it will be hided under carpet.
It wouldnt happen if at e+ wouldnt be hiden groups of anticheat team.
RM was able to talk with me via TS, here at gab, or PMs when they was judging. in regular court i would have time to talk with judges 
I even cannot see what they talk about my case. I as interested side should have that right. Rules not predict situations like this one, so i think that i cannot be judged directly by them. Iam not random "cheater", and this is not random catch by PB or by anyone. You have right to blelive in santa clause. you have right to not belive me. but i do not see any weak sides of my explanation in this topic. all is showed here by that way how i remember it.
excessiveplus shouldnt have secret groups and secret trusted players. community members should know where to go with the accusations. actualy it can result with ill situations like this one.
RM still not answer me about case of me in ref+ team. actually iam banned from ranking. but iam banned from being ref and helping others like i was doing it in past for long time? i have to deal with unpleasant situations when players call me cheater. k iam banned. but did i cheat ever some1? i can be banned, but not called cheater cuz even if you will rly hard try, you wont find any kind of proof for that i cheated by any way in game.
5. January 2013 - 0:57
#72
United Kingdom
Re: Benedykt, Trance, Kerl caught using wallhack
Great logic Benedykt.
So I can buy a gun in a pub in South London and shoot it at night in empty streets because I never killed anyone? And if a CCTV camera catches me and 2 of my buddies shooting it and police arrests me I can just say "I am an upstanding citizen, and i never actually shot a gun at humans, I just shot it at bottles to test it. I am not a criminal, I am a vigilante and hero, like Batman (and you can never call me murderer because you can't prove it)"
Sorry Bene but you paid price for your own actions, this isn't case of injustice, but downright carmic retribution. You were low enough to illegally acquire a wallhack, to test it online on a PB server and to give it to your clanmates, probably low enough to cheat too. Every cheater has some bullshit story, "I did it for good of excessive", "omg i don't cheat this is just graphic bug or fake evidence" "i was just testing it, i am great guy really", "you know me, this was only time I ever test it" "it wasnt me, it was someone with same IP but not same person". You guys all say it when you are caught (and only after you get caught)
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5. January 2013 - 5:08
#73
Canada
Re: Benedykt, Trance, Kerl caught using wallhack
Shooting a gun and using cheats are to very different things. Don't try to prove someones logic incorrect with your own that does not compare to the situation.
Lets sum up what is happening here. Morally bene is probley not guilty as he did it out of good intentions (this cannot be completely proven but is likely).
Technically he is guilty as there is proof he used whatever he used.
Therefore punishment is most likely going to happen because of bene and the others being unlucky and not forth right enough with what they were doing.
What have we learn't from this. Life is a bitch.
PS: i think bene want to know if he can still be ref.. etc etc
5. January 2013 - 7:24
#74
Re: Benedykt, Trance, Kerl caught using wallhack
sgaydy go troll somwhere else. i never heard about situation when some1 is catched with even illegal weapon and is called automaticaly murderer. only if judge will prove that he killed some1. nowhere is writen that i gived it to any1. its only your ill speculation. if you say i was probably cheatig. find it, you have open way all demos from ranking will say you that i never did it. and i do not see any bullshits in my story, its not story like you was probably able to read in any other cheater cases.
want judge me? act like judge and ANALyse everything. without that, you are only biased, and when you want judge, you shouldnt be.
go back troll to pro eDOWN steal irc channel and attack e+ site with old mates.
5. January 2013 - 9:50
#75
Re: Benedykt, Trance, Kerl caught using wallhack
wrote:who cares about other people.
how can you put both this storys in one basket.
Sound Story
and
serwer with low protection
5. January 2013 - 11:28
#76
Poland
Re: Benedykt, Trance, Kerl caught using wallhack
Even one or two time in a day enable the pb on beer server just for a while..dunno how with detectable but let it be uses
fucking hate if some using/testing hacks and finally get back on servs after some months. PERMANENT ban or like a 2-3 years to get clear situation and really dont care if its a person which i like or hate.
Good Job Fps
5. January 2013 - 12:59
#77
Re: Benedykt, Trance, Kerl caught using wallhack
hello people
what about fakenicker named "prorok" i ear somewhere is bene, right?
5. January 2013 - 15:10
#78
Re: Benedykt, Trance, Kerl caught using wallhack
I don't know how fucking dickhead is person who is using any kind of cheats.
For what? Sick.
Damn it - pernament ban for all who is using it (in anyway).
I would be worst lame in game than be a sneaky cheaty kid.
5. January 2013 - 22:24
#80
United Kingdom
Re: Benedykt, Trance, Kerl caught using wallhack
wrote:sgaydy go troll somwhere else. i never heard about situation when some1 is catched with even illegal weapon and is called automaticaly murderer. only if judge will prove that he killed some1. nowhere is writen that i gived it to any1. its only your ill speculation. if you say i was probably cheatig. find it, you have open way
want judge me? act like judge and ANALyse everything. without that, you are only biased, and when you want judge, you shouldnt be.
go back troll to pro eDOWN steal irc channel and attack e+ site with old mates.
[q]i never heard about situation when some1 is catched with even illegal weapon and is called automaticaly murderer. only if judge will prove that he killed some1. nowhere[/q]
I will draw a better, more literal comparison for you: imagine someone is caught with several grams of heroin, they are arrested and tried based on the severity of their crime (i.e. how much they carry, the more they have - the worse the punishment of course). It doesn't matter if it's for your own use, for sale or you wanted to throw it into the sea. Even if there is no traces of heroin in your bloodstream, you are still jailed. Why? Possession of illegal substances. Same with wallhack: even if your intentions are good (which, by the way, they aren't), you should get punished severely. I am not trolling here by the way, I just can't stand cheaters in any game.
[q] if you say i was probably cheatig. find it, you have open way
all demos from ranking will say you that i never did it.[/q]Why should I waste my valuable time on doing something as pointless as this when you are already caught and banned? You are a cheater with dirty reputation, it is you who needs to clear your name with proof. Look at Lance Armstrong being stripped from every single Tour de France medal. And Lance Armstrong was the Lance Armstrong of cycling, 8 times winner who overcame cancer. You in comparison are like some average cyclist who entered once, and finished in top 100.
[q] and i do not see any bullshits in my story, its not story like you was probably able to read in any other cheater cases.[/q]
Actually, it's bog-standard. I've seen my share of cheaters in Excessive, in Urban Terror and in Quake Live. It's always the same: guy hacks, guy gets discovered because of own stupidity, guy writes long story where he always is the victim and he always only tried it once (only once ever and they got caught, turbo-promise!), and always has "legit" reasoning for trying it. (at least at first, when they think their reputation will save them. When they realise they lost all their respect by cheating in first place and nobody will trust them anymore, it gets funny cos they start to apologise (I see you are not on this stage yet). Your story varies a bit since you were "testing for security breaches", but that's it.
[q]want judge me? act like judge and ANALyse everything. without that, you are only biased, and when you want judge, you shouldnt be.[/q]
lolbiased. Once again: You have access to a cheat, you tested it on a war server and you didn't tell anyone except your clanmates, and the only reason you got caught is because you yourself wanted to embarrass FPS. Your every action gets judged, and we have proof of you both cheating and lying about origin of screenshots to FPS. As a proven cheater and a liar, you need to clear your own name, not vice versa. You are not a trustable person. :=
Even your psychological profiling fits a cheater: average-intelligence or below narcissist full of self-worth and angry vengeance at "other cheaters", so he gets a hack since "everyone else cheats anyway" (because, how could anyone beat a great player like him without some sort of cheat?), then when he gets caught, he tries to hide behind his reputation, and be all passive-agressive to people who accuse him, despite a mountain of evidence. It's a story as old as time itself, nothing special in your case (in fact, you don't even get in the cheater hall of fame: ZeroQL had over 30 local LAN wins, Sombra when he got caught was the second most successful Spanish dueller in the history of Quake, zhu had won CTF medals in Spartie and demon's clan d&p.
You could take a leaf out of Sombra's book and threaten to sue FPS for defamation of character ))
In case you do tell the truth about "not cheating ever again" (even though you have lied about things in this thread), then you just extremely stupid and deserve the ban for your actions. And you need to switch to cheater stage 2 within next 6 months and start being apologetic for your cheating* instead of just attempting to offend people who disagree with you with non-sequiturs, and just accept that you are a cheater and start to apologise, then your appeal will go successful. Because, after 6 months, your unban is not automatic, you need to proove to ranking that you learned your lesson and you will never cheat again. All I see in your replies is aggression, you show no remorse for your actions at all.
* Even if you just "tested it on server once", well, you still downloaded and installed and used a cheat on a war server, which makes you a cheater 
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