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Cheater Report Discussion
17. November 2012 - 17:20
#601
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
wrote:maybe try read again part about rsqt server.
i did, read it quite careful he does not state there if its working on the server or not, but from the context u can get the idea that he have played with those on the server witch can be understand like the server had those files
anyhow he just can clear the situation by saying what he meant, instead of we debating about what he meant...
wrote:having them in folder is not that same as playing with them. its simple impossible when PURE IS ON.
rules of that how PURE works are so hard? to this topic should have acces only players with some basic knowledge.
Well man, read my post careful now, it is possible to use custom paks on pure server, it isn't that hard to hack pure and i am sure its not only me know how to do it
17. November 2012 - 18:13
#602
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
wrote:I love how in those private quotes everyone is like "but will we get caught using this?" and not "it's cheating and it's wrong" like they are in public. Haha. Who are you guys fooling, you don't give a shit.
Agreed oO
17. November 2012 - 20:30
#603
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
wrote:guys, pure enforces that client only loads pk3s that server has also together with scripts like player/weapon models. if you join a pure server you need to download any pk3 that includes extra models. (at least if my hangover doesnt confuse my mind).
anyways to have those files working you either need to have pure off, have them on server or have a pure hack.
btw, only way to get a 100% clean game is to either play on lan or update q3.exe faster then a cheatcoder can decompile/hack it.
ps: you ain't part of the plus team rayden?
Ok we all know how pure works, at least some of us. So that means someone actually can hack even if pure is on and bypass it and use the files he wants. Is that you are saying?
ps. Insteed of saying GL with your new duties etc... and be happy about someone who cares for fair game you offended because i felt part of the E+ and i changed my nick? Plz if you want to help i created a topic in private beta section about this so go there and help. And dont worry i will change my nick back to my olds. pffff....
17. November 2012 - 21:14
#604
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
Rayden, please stop to make a drama, hopefully u will use yours knowledge to help us deal with chetzz instead using the time to make pointless arguing about egonicking, (side note most of the ppl in this board feel part of the e+ lols)
17. November 2012 - 22:07
#605
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
wrote:Rayden, please stop to make a drama, hopefully u will use yours knowledge to help us deal with chetzz instead using the time to make pointless arguing about egonicking, (side note most of the ppl in this board feel part of the e+ lols)
Dont worry i took this situation in my hands right now. Soon you and the rest will get my report about those files. I believe today until midnight i will finish all the reasearch or else tomorow for sure.
18. November 2012 - 0:21
#606
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
ok i finnish with my research so here you go my report about this situation and those pk3 files.
I tested those files in 4 diferent servers (2 war servers and 2 public) so here we have the analysis for that.
First i started puting them to my folder so see what will happen. I enter on the TDM server where pure was on. I stayed about 5 min and pure didnt kick me but i didnt noticed any diferent on the sound then before.
It seems pure analisies all the standart pk3 files if they are modified. The rest files pure ignores them i geuss.
After that i upload this files to the TDM server to see what will happen. When i upload them they started to work. And then i realize what those files can do after noise tests with my friend Paul ( THEPOPE)
So what those files do exactly?
They dont makes you hear enemies far away from the normal ones but they give you 3 advantages.
1) You dont hear you footsteps sounds.
2) You dont hear your jumps sounds
3) You hear the enemies sounds twice louder then normal sound.
Still pure doesnt kick me and i can use them if the server have them on the root.
After that we added some lines to the servers config to make punkbuster BAN you when you have those files to your base directory to see if its working. And actually it did 
I am conneting to server again and after some min puckbuster bans for having those files to my directory.
After i went to BeerFreezer to check if those files are uploaded to the server and if pure will kick me. Both didnt happen and i couldnt use those files to hear better. The same happened to QL Elite'z server which those are proofs that those 2 public servers are clean from those files (at least they are now). The same for the TDM servers.
After this hole story the main probem is that those files GIVES ADVANTAGE if the server has those files so i suggest to the admins of the servers to find me and tell them what to do to make at least punkbuster ban the player which may have those files into his folder.
Now about Mzi, zarzyn and the IS clan we will discuss with the other rank mods to see what we will do with them about the mess they create.
ok now we have my Ban
[11.17.2012 22:52:15] MD5Tool ["baseq3/pak19.pk3" SZ147801 AT0 LEN32 E9E007CBCEBF83047A495D1354B2437E] from (slot# 2) R^44^7yd^43^7N
[11.17.2012 22:52:15] VIOLATION (MD5TOOL) #9002: R^44^7yd^43^7N (slot #2) MD5Tool Mismatch: baseq3/pak19.pk3 (len=32) [71754a08f2653412ebb1c926c6ba09b7(-) 46.12.154.78:55829]
[11.17.2012 22:52:15] Kick Command Issued (MD5Tool Mismatch: baseq3/pak19.pk3 (len=32)) for (slot#2) 46.12.154.78:55829 71754a08f2653412ebb1c926c6ba09b7 R^44^7yd^43^7N
[11.17.2012 22:52:15] Lost Connection (slot #2) 46.12.154.78:55829 71754a08f2653412ebb1c926c6ba09b7(-) R^44^7yd^43^7N
18. November 2012 - 0:37
#607
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
quote from rayden
After i went to BeerFreezer to check if those files are uploaded to the server and if pure will kick me. Both didnt happen and i couldnt use those files to hear better. The same happened to QL Elite'z server which those are proofs that those 2 public servers are clean from those files (at least they are now). The same for the TDM servers.
we always were clean=/
18. November 2012 - 0:47
#608
United States
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
Nice job Rayden. Sorry i couldn't help you personally, but as you can see you got your answers by other guys and did a good job about cleaning the situation about those pk3's.
And concerning the below --->
wrote:
Now about Mzi, zarzyn and the IS clan we will discuss with the other rank mods to see what we will do with them about the mess they create.
when you discuss about those matters, remember who went in public with those advantages, and who kept silent about them for quite some time. I did created all this mess by revealing that secret to community, and i don't mind being banned as long as everyone gets their deserved punishment. Cheers.
18. November 2012 - 0:52
#609
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
wrote:(at least they are now)
And they always were! What are you implying? Our servers are not related to IS and we have nothing to do with those files, damn it!
18. November 2012 - 2:25
#610
United Kingdom
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
wrote:(at least they are now)
Tut tut tut , this is the remarks from a position needed from a mature person without any bad feels or grudges ?
Your first real input as Rank mod , and you put your personal feeling into it , disgraceful !!!
I did i expect any less , NO !
your way or the highway , good choice other mods !
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