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Sorry, i must be blind but i cant still see that the shots in the movie are proof of autoshooting.

I mean, they are for sure shots near the edges of the bounding box, BUT the crosshair of the player moves over the bounding box and only hits it when its exiting it. In my opinion, for an autoshoot to be proved it must shoot just when it first touches the bounding box, which it doesnt appear on the movie posted by camel (ok, except for the first and third shots).

Oh and btw, edge shots are more common that you might think. Maybe not for skull or good railers, but for me i just recorded a random demo (since i usually never record any demos) and noticed that most of the half of my shots were on the edges of the bounding box. I attach the demo if you dont believe me.

come to think about it, I think you're right.

* Edge shots are not common.
* What appears to be an edge shot is common.

Edge shots for autoshoot are proof of target calculated detection.. so the autoshoot program will shoot exactly at the point when a target is detected.. which would be on the edge exactly when the crosshair is moving "into" the target and not the other way around.

there's also one factor that i can see now, the rail line you see is not exactly at the time of the "click" its a bit delayed and it stays there while the model bounces around and thats why you'll find screenshots with the fixed rail on the edge because the model tends to move away from the rail one way or another.

so, my proposal:
1. Salvin seems innocent.
2. Mohammad seems innocent.
3. James still unknown.
4. 1st class still unknown.

if all turns out to be clean, I propose punishment for james for "owning" hacks in the first place, which imo should be a timed ban. also, his brothers should spank him and post a video of that on youtube.

To understand how autoshoot exactly works and how edge shots are critical look at the last video posted by camel and look at the colour of the hitbox. Yellow is an undetected target by the client. Red is a detected target.

so when it turns red that defines the moment and location where an autoshoot program will shoot.

both salvin and mohammad seem to pass the test.

BTW, so that you know who you're talking to:

Shwarovisky on the forum is 1stclass / lostjohnny

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pls dont bann laker and the other jordan players..

How much are they paying you?

Get on your knees and say again!
lol

Nice vid Camel. Biggest problem since the start was to prove (or better say investigate) who is who, and who is cheating and who's not from JO country
all those nicks....but at least it wont last long now.

Cheaters Don't go away mad, just go away ^^

may your lack of honor serve you "right" in the future. sometimes I'm sad ppl dont kill themself when their honor is gone down the drain...it would be so much easier. I <3 Japanese way of thinking

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first of all i noticed u put ur ass between the dicks fight
second thing is we never pay respectable friends
its just ur whore mama whom we pay , and we pay generously for her sacrifices she offer (btw say hi for me)

she get down on her knees and begged for more when she taste the delicious meal u know she does me in and she does any one else too

she only got to shake it and im shaking in my shoes
u know she likes that fine , u know she's a hungry lady and u know ill feed her fine.

if you know your mothers wish ull realise that shes cheating the real thing , shes a slut all her life she wishes every day was a one night stand.

where i come from no one smiles , every inch exist in miles , u better hurry leaving you dog face boy without leaving a note cuz ill be back for u and be back again and again till nothing left of ya.

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They want make sacrifice someone :twisted: . Holy Inquisition of E+ :-#

Its the main reason, yes...

Old website going down, new coming....so a sacrifice of several virgins (lol I might be even right in this case) must be done so the gods of virtual world don't send us some trouble....blood must be spilled when the moon si full btw.

And exactly at the moment all planets of Solar sistem make alingment so they create sign of Q3A

What a dilema Pomocnik....duuuuuh, hell yeah ^^

if u know abt sacrefice dog face boy u better hide its not as u think a bunch of words behind a keyboard u fuck face its the real thing when a real hell raiser get shocked that some pussy as u are trying to make a point of view while sitting in his iron chair with his 400 pound weight and a sandwich width cant fit in his mouth in something that there will be resulting victims.

ask your mother abt bleeding b4 u even try to talk abt it, dickhead
trust me on this boy she will just shut u up with another sandwich

pon abitit.