Improvements

• I know that majority do something what they dont like kill spawns because other do. I personaly feel stuppid killing spawns. Also dislike 1 vs 1 playing because "PREVENTING SHOTS" in all directions, or specialy on DM17, people use phones and leasten sound from where spawn sound comme, then instantly spam that spot. Then you can be killed several time in rope. People said, it is part of the game and you can do that also. I can but I feel stuppid when do it.
• How avoid, with spawn protection which have good balance of parametars, strong enough healt or shield to resist spamming at you before you can find some obsticle or better possition to defend or fight. Parameters should be balanced by armor strenght and time to live shield.
• Spawn protection stop working after you press fire button, next time you can fire.
• Will be good to test on couple servers and after while discous about it.

if someone dont like this mod then he can play on other mods, osp, cpma, etc, etc.
If someone dont like spawnkilling u can be sure if he will learn them he will do same. If he says he will not be spawnkiller then he lies.
If someone dont like camping he can play defrag.

...Guys, for example some ppl of e+ mod playing uFreeze mod and that mod is all about skilled camping. I hope ppl who didnt played this mod then they can try it and after it u can go back in e+. Then they can comapre.
It is hard to compare e+ with osp, IU, uFreeze, CPMA and others mod cuz everyone mod has something other and that is why ppl play it.

PS : All ppl can say his opinion on public about all things but i dont care. I have own ideas, so ppl pls dont reply on this with bs like : E+ is camp mod, what is wrong right now on mod and how can it be fixed for future. If u want smth to change here is topic about it:

http://forums.excessiveplus.net/viewtopic.php?t=7975

If u dont like this mod then dont play it.

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For example if I tell that I dont like in my city or state something and apeal for change or make propousal for change. Then somone which like situation at it is, tell me: "IF YOU DONT LIKE LIKE IT IS GO TO LIVE IN OTHER CITY/COUNTRY". Big LOL.

rena if i take ur example then i can see ur life is game Pls be realist

And whos blocking you ? Maybe u missed this one [code:1]All ppl can say his opinion on public about all things[/code:1]
But i think on forums are enough negative words about this mod. Do u think other ?

hmm ok as i said pretty much nothing constructive has been said in the last 3 pages...so im gonna really stop on this topic with this post...

first off this whole topic was about the fact that someone was frustrated with spawn camping that happens in high level cws (by high level i mean among high ranked clans)....and when i said people were being defensive about it i meant posts like - you lost a clan war so stop bitching...these from people like ko guys, necro and others..who really should know better....if u call that a mature response u need a dictionary...

for the last time im not trying to flame anybody...i accept the fact that ko is one of the best clans around and i admire u guys for playing so well....

but none of this really solves the problem posed....also cryptor went a little extreme by calling people ignorant...wrong word...but u guys are most definitely resistant to change...like most established people are....if u look at this thread objectively u will understand that easily enough....

neways i dont think spawn protection is really the answer..you see the problem isnt as simple as spawn camping..think of this..what if a team just camps in one room and watch spawn spots and entrances..spawn protection wont help much..cos after ur protection is done (and presumably u wont be able to shoot people during the protected period) ull still have like 4 rails aimed at you....to be completely honest i cant think of a single thing that will really solve the problem..since having all weaps, health and armour at spawn really obviates any need for movement...

hopefully someone smarter will come up with a better idea....neways whoever is gonna respond to this topic mite as well know that if ur gonna say stupid things like - go play another mod if u dont like e+....i dont give a shit about what you say on this....

bye bye to this topic...

ps: im sorry that this post is mostly a summary of my other posts..its just that if someone clicks on the last post and thus ends up reading only the last page i want them to know precisely where i stand on the issue...

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ok, to say something helpfully, how about reducing rg power to 300 damage instead of 900, so, if u take armor, u dont get killed with 1 rail?

YES! Bringing back the use of armor is something i personally would love to see! MJ is kinda oblivious to me, but i wouldn't mind disabling them, it would probably help me (any many other people) develop better nade/rocket movement.

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