I see no problem in employing a simple if-else for adding 2-3 mj's only on dm17... anyway, i think we should save this discussion for the actual suggestions thread concerning plus cfg. Mow supplied an idea of creating a sub-forum specifically for cfg discussions, i think it's good enough.

In this case u speak about ur personal favour. With combos, bfg/nades, or bfg/rocket, u can do things, which u never did, because the multijumps made the job for you. At least, if a change come, it will not come from today to tomorrow. Like i said, first on a test server, which i try to make it good visited to get a valid common opinion.

again a personal impression. The maindifference, as example for me, is the physics, in bro and nh 1 and on plus 2. Als the weaponusage, while u play in e5 bfg/mg/lg/nade, u play in plus rg/rl/nade/bfg

it is said, that i see nearly nobody using physics 2, for example making a U-Turn out of 700 ups, dominating the map with strafing. If someone comes with 700 ups arround the corner, the enemy is in the first second really suprised (at least many of them)

Sure, u will need to change ur routine than a bit. With old rail u was sure, if u hear the sound, enemy is fragged. Now, u have to keep an eye on him, because u dunno if he have a armor, so, u need at least a combo of rg/mg, mg as finishing. I think the common oppinion about it, could be just positive, and game would be more interesting. Also a way to have an argument against zone camping. 3 enemies camping at red armor on dm7, so, u have the possibility with armor to have a chance against 3, but just if u have an good aim and a good game-sight.

Here u post against ur principles u posted above. If someone change the splashdamage of a weapon, he will change also the the physics of movement of that weapon. BFG has no extra knockback, the movement is made with splasdamage only. If u make bfg movement with knockback only, than u will move just in one direction, and u cant variate anymore ur bfg moves from one corner. (going to left or to right, u will just have the way, going up or down).

The positiv at that is, that u cant move blind through maps, at least, u need to use ur ears before u go arround a corner. and mod is still called "excessive"

Thats just to personall impression. This thread is not able to collect a common oppinion, just a busy testserver can do that.

U speak again against urself, for what u need powerups, if u want to keep instarail? which would be still instarail with the exception someone has a "powerup".

a quad appears (hope i am not wrong), all 2 minutes, whats unfair than, if it get used in a war 2-3 times in a war of 4vs4 or 5vs5. Basically, i always shoot at quadpeople first, before i look other enemys.

I supposed that these posts will be moved to the appropriate forum(?).

I'll say this here, and i believe i'll say it again:

-The main characteristic of excessive plus as it is, is bfg sliding, nothing more.

-The main characteristic of bro cfgs as they are, is instarail. (most categorize no-mj cfgs as "bro")

-If it is decided that a cfg, for instance, with no mj, 230/300 rg damage, active armors and bfg slides isn't "bro" then i guess it isn't. There are sooo many servers, some can hold a cfg like that for gamers to go play there. And maybe, who knows, maybe after some time it'll replace the current cfgs.

-What i think is a fact, is that servers with that cfg could attract players from other mods.

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U critze mod and us but u dont see eny solution of it... if u cant find solution wich will be fit more than a half of comunity just lern to leave with it or simple live it...

Yes, I agree with you totaly. Only constructive propousals which are in connection with topic. As I noticed all people dislike spawncamping and spawnkilling, respawn killing. Because that is easy points and pure luck mostly. So, some people just take it at is and play at is. We all in common have same perspective about possible improvement if it is possible. So we have to make suggestion constructive about that and try it on some test server.... If we have luck, then can move on it, if not rollback where we now. Simple.

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Holy crap

Topic begin with:

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I finished cw against KO before few minutes. All 3 maps was only about one thing. About spawncamping and spawnkills. Thats all?....

And now turn it in bloody REVOLUTION of changing everithing. Evolution need it and not bloody REVOLUTION. So, just keep with topic, we here discus about SPAWNKILLING and SPAWNCAMPING :!:
Regards

i am glad that someone noticed its radiculus

they complayning about spawncamping but they wana change config to point on wich it will stop be bro'like

plese just tell me if that quote meintored by some ppl does not describe sytuation the best

"if u cant find solution wich will be fit more than a half of comunity just lern to leave with it or simple live it"

I am verry satisfied with E+ mod as it now. And I am verry afirmative to preserve CORE maen HART of E+. Slightly changes should be maked but slowly and try it alot before making general change... WHO DONT LIKE CORE OF E+ should procede in mods which satisfy ther needs, dont try to change our mod to something other because you dont like at all alot in E+. HQ, two of us verry often think similar about same matter.
Chears mate.

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lol

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had to be said at some point.

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Totally irrelevant to the reason i posted the "lol" above:

The precious bro like cfgs will remain the same i suppose. Personally, i talk about a new cfg. There are no solid arguments against that idea i think.

btw, i am intrigued here, which is the core of e+ rena?

Core
in E+ mod is in name EXCESSIVE, but more then that EXCESSIVEPLUS. So, we are EXSCESSIVE. Fast moving, healt 300 and pump up without collecting. So, we have excessive healt. Have excessive railgin with strenght 900. We have multijumps and dont hurt self with own weapon. That is preatty EXCESSIVE. That it is what I on first sight will tell you when you possible wake me up in middle of night.... :roll: People which know in details can make list for you, like e+ team, Mulle, Nihil, MowQ, HQ, Flex1....
Yes, if you change some core stuff, then we have to change name from E+ in some other name.... but that cant happened :!:
Regards