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[mr]Kraken
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You are low in my eye. Calling my post for nonsense, really a low water mark! This is my end at this conversation, I don’t have to put up with this. And I know what I want to know of you guys. I hope this made a good last statement.

Best Regards
Kraken

*Correction for last post: if not it.

gen.X.SuperBo!
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1. NOONE has personally attacked mulle. I know he is a person so I kept the conversation civil, you were there for it and if you were reading what was typed you will see that the namecalling started not from us. Also read posts in GenX forums to see who has been rude.

2. GenX has *NEVER* recruited an active member of another clan so dont use that as an excuse to stop recruiting. Pan had already left BRO, I asked him only because I saw him without a tag. OD! had already split up, Szpak simply followed Pandora because they are friends, HQ and Carnag3 left RS because they wanted to, I never asked them to leave, neither did anyone else in GenX as far as I know. I seem to recall seeing Iz and ummm.. Yoda? (sorry, dont remember who the other one was) with mr tags now though, so don't give me that "Holier than thou" crap. FRV exists today because we told ForSeeSen to start his own clan when he asked to join GenX because we wanted to promote new clans on E+ so no, we are not going to enlist FRV in GenX.

3. We had an opinion, an *opinion* about a rule set on mr server and we spoke it. It is ok that we have to do what mr says on mr servers, we never said anything else, but do we have to THINK what mr clan thinks? We thought that rule was bad because it seriously damages the chances for new clans to emerge and smaller clans to grow. We are not even recruiting atm.

4. We didnt whine, we didnt accuse, we didnt call anyone names, we didnt start a war on the messageboards, we didnt take down servers.

5. I never said anything bad about mulle himself, I only said that the rules on his servers are bad and I stand for that. I appreciate what mulle did for the E+ community and the time he has put into running his servers and I would HATE to see them good for gone, as I would hate see mulle gone for good, him and me has, even though we havent always looked at things the same way, had quite a few good talks on the server chats.

6. I have nothing against members of mr or BRO clans, some of the people I consider my best gaming buddies are playing in mr and BRO and quite frankly I don't know why mr has such a distaste for GenX other than the fact that me, pan and sub went for GenX instead of BRO. Me and Sub started GenX because we wanted more clans, simple as that. No wars, no leagues if you dont have enough clans.

7. Please read my posts in GenX forums to see my opinion about what happened....

[mr]Kraken
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I want to believe You but my common sense says no. 4-5 players leaving BRO at the same time, and was then without a explanation, after some days I can see them play for Genx. That did really heart BRO. So mullder and I thought that no tag would be a solution, it was not a good solution I have to admit, so we removed it after just one week.
I was playing RS rudz on our cfg server one week before I saw him in a Genx tag, so that thing about [mr.] forcing them apart is a complete lie. And I heard that you yesterday was thinking of join FRV to Genx. Maybe someone made it a joke afterwards. Couse needier I or the one how told me thought that that it was a joke then.

Whole thing just sounds strange.

So sorry Bo
Kraken

pandora!box
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I was going not 2 write anymore but what u wrote is completly messed up.

4-5 players????????? 4-5 players that left bro and went to GenX??????
Ahaha!!!

Tell me who else left bro then? Just me and Szpak. And I left becouse of Mulle also (as well as I wanted to completly stop playing this mod.
Call this a precognition but in some way I sensed this whole thing will end in fire and LoL tears). Don't U get it?

And two weeks later I joined GenX couse they were alternative to this whole Mr. monopoly....

Who else left bro .... ??? Carnag3??? He never was in bro!!! Hq???? He never was in bro!!!

Just give me a name. Cant U do that??? Couse what u wrote here is some kind of s-ficion story!!

[mr]Kraken
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BRO had a hard time after the emigration. At least 3 went of to join pyro-genx, more found that as a real nockout and left therefor, maybe even more than five. I didn’t write in the post how many that joined Genx, if you scroll back you’ll see, and maybe It save my heart not answering patronising replays next time.

This is my point:
If you guys are so “many clan friendly” as you pretend to be, how can it possible be that you wrecked other clans in search of new member? We may have ghost in our closet in not saying that. But you build your whole offence on that we are killing clans? And who are You to attack us on this soft ground. And when I reverse and explain, You start to bend and curl like the worm you really are.

Good night
Kraken

pandora!box
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First of all U are going to far with ur poethical methapors about worms etc. Thats 2 far from civilized discussion.

U say that BRO had hard time after emigration... and that at least 3 ex-bro members joined GenX. Again u didnt give any names so i will repeat - only me and szpak joined genx. And as far as I recall no other players left bro at that time. Next player that left bro was Lasse Maja. Did breo really had hard time with that? I thought U were happy that he left but that fact is of no importance here.

Second thing: wich clan have we wracked? Please give me name. OD!? Ask rudz or Snemann if we had anything to do with that. U will get ur answer and perhaps U will at last stop throwing accusations that have no cover in reality.

ANd yes ... Im happy to know that U said that - u are (perhaps u are not aware of this fact) in some way "killing" clans. ILL GIVE U ONE VERY GOOD EXAMPLE WHEN U TRIED TO ACHIVE THIS.

After GenX emerged with Sub, Bo and Diesell and I left BRO - what happend? Mulle get angry that we didnt stayed in BRO, he banned ALL CLANS from his servers. Am I wrong? And pls ... dont say GenX had in that time enough of members couse there were only 3 of them - SuB, Diesell, Bo. Then 2-3 weeks later when this whole silly affair settled down I joined them.

Bout wrecking other clans - who else (LOL) did we wrecked? BRO? U know why I were happy to leave bro ? Couse in some sort mr. are wrecking BRO by themselfes. Example? Why one of the top players joined mr lately?
(I mean Iz to be exact)

Ahhh u could proabably say we wrecked RS. Wich is not true ... and me and carnag3 know this better couse we were RS founders

pandora!box
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Ahhh and if u really need to call someone worm leave this for me ... dont name that way other genx members like cranage or hq or timm couse they didnt do anything to u.

mullder
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2 weeks let mi lafing here u arent even a good layer cant u count it was 2 days then u was wering a new nick lol thats whay i asked u if u wasent going to take a brake u lafed at mi and say u had.And am a chame that there are ppl like u in this nice super mod u destroy it fore all and u are only problems and allways have being so.That is a fackt

pandora!box
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scuse me - I now when i joined genx - yes true i was cosidering it earlier but i joined a lot of later. And pls - i didnt call kraken liar even when he was telling that fairytale bout 5 players leaving bro.

And mulle, perhaps i've got problems but u do so. U are making a comedy/tragedy THIRD time in 6 months. So please spare me that freud like talking.

pandora!box
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And if im a problem and u knew this from the beginning u should be very happy i left bro. And stop telling that crap i destroyed this mod couse its not me who are closing servers everytime somone say sth u dont like. U are some sort of censorship or blackmailer, or what? (no offense pls but thats how I see the whole situation right now)

And u could be so good server admin ... if u stayed neutral as u said somwhere before. This whole thing is not against u as a server admin, not against mr clan wich has some nice members (not all imo) but against the way some ppl trying to kick out new clans