cl_timenudge paranoia

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animalchik wrote:
I have't say that it draws snapshot sooner, U did... That's why i have say u are wrong about Winking Client simply can't draw a snapshot before it arrive to it ! all that what u have say about timenudge makes no logic, u can't enforce recieving snaps sooner and know the location of the target before snaps arrive! basta ! Big grin

Maybe you misunderstood my post, if you put timenudge to -30, it predicts the position where the enemy gotta be in 30 msec based upon the last both snapshots and their info of the player direction.

nope it does not Happy it would mean the target will be displayed in wrong position and if u going to shot him u will definitely miss, but that does not happen, when u put negative nudge the prediction is not applied as that much, and when u put much negative timenudge u actually see that the move of target is not smooth because the prediction of position is missing there, witch is indicated on lagometer as yellow triangles. More negative nudge u will apply biger indication u will see, u can actually make a observation of this yourself; in the situation where u claim negative nudge apply more prediction the position of targets going to be corrected each time a snapshot arrive, so the moving enemies would be dragged back each snapshot, that would expain the unsmooth movement, but at first think that the prediction is there to smooth the targets and then it makes no sense in that behevior because if each snapshot would be interpolated ahead this would still give smoothy look of targets. Also if u will look at enemies u will see that they aren't draged back, but what actually happens is that they move one direction with breaks so using pure logic wihout any dev knowledge gives quite accurate picture of what i alredy quoted in first post.

If we talking about server side prediction i will try to speak to yours healthy logic. In unlagged what we use in e+ it is the server who determinate u miss or hit regardless of client side prediction. Ask yourself what is easier to hit in; 1ms timeframe or 33ms timeframe, i think its obvious... Winking Since server works with 30fps then u shot to targets that position are predicted because if u would trying to hit 1ms then u would miss all the time... Of course more information u send to the server about yours position more accurate this prediction will be. And here we come with the nudge, if a server prediction vary from client prediction the only way to adjust those differences is to use timenudge, many ppl claims it makes ppl lag but in fact it helps to correct client side prediction to look more like server side prediction witch at the end decides about accuracy.

And i do not ask u guys to trust on my words, u can all test what i am saying yourself! U will quickly convince yourself that nudge actually gives huge benefits against laggy opponents and prediction errors.

btw. i have made some screenshots as well to prove my point Smug i will use as a example "szkodnik" thank u man for the voluntary photo posing.

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take it easy guys, its only stupid game oO

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*ZMB*INEED$* wrote:

I can't take any word for serious from someone who has 3 bans and changes his opinion as the wind blows.

rUnThEoN?! wrote:

equinox wrote:
Skull was a ranking mod, but he took his job seriously and caught many cheaters besides just clicking buttons on ranking page, and cheaters are important thing in ranking, you know. Entire ranking is useless if cheaters participate in it.

signed/Decision about swc fait still has to be done since what, 2 months? I can't do the job my life long and I don't since quite some time.

Spraw maybe you should reconsider your attitude about taking my words for serious. I see that ex ranking moderator did ,and he did number of things for this community ,those related to ranking and some that are indirectly connected to it, while you're still
"green" in this job, and i see that you don't realize what is your resposability yet.

And now in order to show your commitment to this community and do your job, read this thread and take measures against this guy
http://www.excessiveplus.net/forums/thread/wh

Or you can start with considering the case of SWC|FAIT, like Skull said.

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fala, please back up your words with a source or a way to test urself, because atm all discussion is about the behavior of timenudge itself. The rest is logic based argumentation depending on the behavior.

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rUnThEoN?! wrote:

fala, please back up your words with a source or a way to test urself, because atm all discussion is about the behavior of timenudge itself. The rest is logic based argumentation depending on the behavior.

dran don't be stubborn lazy ass and go to the client faq in this forum, both sources of this information are attached in my first post its enough to read it, and if u still don't believe in words of developers then test it yourself as i was writing in my previous post...

and btw u demand from me a source of my information or a prove, i did that already, but u have nothing to back up yours words aside yours own arguments witch i have easly proven as wrong

if u want to continue that discussion please provide me some proves or trustworthy sources saying the same as u Winking

i also have attached ss of a player who plays on packets 40 and his connection is smooth as silk witch destroying yours opinion about that settings cause a lag, and u simply cant ignore that

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mzi.ql wrote:

take it easy guys, its only stupid game oO

no it is the most imported think in the world
ladys fight Happy

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much better this than read milena's pms posts Winking i think this ladyfight is rly useful, i readed it all carefully n hope i won't forget it tomorrow lol but it's rly interesting, u n mzi are always kurwas Tongue

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much better this than read milena's pms posts Winking i think this ladyfight is rly useful, i readed it all carefully n hope i won't forget it tomorrow lol but it's rly interesting, u n mzi are always kurwas Tongue

Happy yes yes yes one spaghetti please Tongue

al that topic look >> look like this in my opinion
fala found setting good for him (cos of interent connection ore somethink dont care )
skull fight for unlaged e+ mod .
they got there opinion about subject and expirence to show there rights.
I am noob i cant judge them. Who can ?
But i can bet that when he will play cw ref will force him to change it.
Ofc he can play in public serwers. And talk with serwer admins about this command. Happy

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zarzyn wrote:

im a niub monkey Tongue

ye i know, just random niub who doesn't got enough experience bout this topic for say something senseful, even spaghetti are better than u lol if ppl like him or like skull doesn't make this bla bla bla topics, mods games etc wouldn't improve or go further, but ur milena's lover so nvm...lol

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zarzyn wrote:
im a niub monkey Tongue

ye i know, just random niub who doesn't got enough experience bout this topic for say something senseful, even spaghetti are better than u lol if ppl like him or like skull doesn't make this bla bla bla topics, mods games etc wouldn't improve or go further, but ur milena's lover so nvm...lol

really. you are weard ? you like to say agressive words to other people.
but when sobody joke about you ore your nationality .
you are suprised.
fuck i ma italian stalion . Dont joke at me Tongue noob go F**k your self

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