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Creating a judges council
20. December 2005 - 15:13
#51
Creating a judges council
wrote:guys i dont wanna sound like a party pooper but this whole community thing is going out of control and it starts reminding me of a way of ruling some guy with a weird mustache (khm khm hitler khm khm) once tried to constitute. Come on guys, its a freaking video game! Why cant everyone just have fun playing the game and just leave the admining to the people who own or admin the servers! IMHO having cheaters in the community is the admins or server owners fault. Because if a cheater is found on a server then it means there wasnt an admin or serv owner there to do what he was supposed to, ban him! And why should a cheater be reported in the forums anyways? It's like someone comes in my house and steals something and first i have to write about it in the newspaper before kicking his ass. Plus i think the whole ban for ever thing is going too far because some people are abusing the respect they earned. I dont wanna point out names and i'm certainly not trying to start a flame war here but people who have more rep in here are sure that they can not be accused of almost anything so thats why they are quick to make decisions about people who are new to this community. People who do you think you are depriving someone of the right to play an online game? What if someone goes and spends a nice 30 USD to get Q3 and then because he cheats he gets banned everywhere? Then that game is useless for him as you all know the whole fun of Q3 is the online action. Try to be a bit more fair here people. Thanks and sorry if i blabbered a bit
Yeap, weebl is right. This is game for fun. Cheaters should be banned forever. Admins should try their best, found cheaters and ban them. Few people cant make decision of all e+ players.
20. December 2005 - 15:50
#52
Creating a judges council
wrote:guys i dont wanna sound like a party pooper but this whole community thing is going out of control and it starts reminding me of a way of ruling some guy with a weird mustache (khm khm hitler khm khm) once tried to constitute. Come on guys, its a freaking video game! Why cant everyone just have fun playing the game and just leave the admining to the people who own or admin the servers! IMHO having cheaters in the community is the admins or server owners fault. Because if a cheater is found on a server then it means there wasnt an admin or serv owner there to do what he was supposed to, ban him! And why should a cheater be reported in the forums anyways? It's like someone comes in my house and steals something and first i have to write about it in the newspaper before kicking his ass. Plus i think the whole ban for ever thing is going too far because some people are abusing the respect they earned. I dont wanna point out names and i'm certainly not trying to start a flame war here but people who have more rep in here are sure that they can not be accused of almost anything so thats why they are quick to make decisions about people who are new to this community. People who do you think you are depriving someone of the right to play an online game? What if someone goes and spends a nice 30 USD to get Q3 and then because he cheats he gets banned everywhere? Then that game is useless for him as you all know the whole fun of Q3 is the online action. Try to be a bit more fair here people. Thanks and sorry if i blabbered a bit
I gotta agree with ya man.
except one point which goes slightly off topic - the hitler thing - i have seen a few post her talking about power and it saddens me (truly) to see that people cannot distinguish between power and responsibility. some people think that making decisions about people and there place in this community as being some form of power - others see themselves responsible for ensuring that things are changed / decided for the good of all, and sometimes have to make shitty decisions.
back on topic:
the more i think about it now the more i see that weebl is right.
it is only a game and the people who make the decisions at the end of the day are the e+ team . . . individual servers are controlled by owners.
so enuf said - come to my servers and have some goddam fun.... lighten up e+ its christmas 
20. December 2005 - 15:57
#53
Creating a judges council
wrote:IMO very good points Weebl except this one:
What if someone goes and spends a nice 30 USD to get Q3 and then because he cheats he gets banned everywhere? Then that game is useless for him as you all know the whole fun of Q3 is the online action. Try to be a bit more fair here people.
Besides the 30 EUR that Q3 cost him, he also pays the price for cheating which is a good solid ban. This quoted point of yours could be interpreted as something like "we should forgive all cheaters that were caught because we must be fair to the man who paied 30 eur for his q3 copy" I dont see how letting cheaters back in, is us (the community) being fair...
One more thing about them cheaters. Look in any community of online gamers what are the rules and punishments for cheating. You will come across the same thing, which is also done here at E+: BAN FOREVER. No matter the game, caught cheaters are exiled and banned from the respective community. These latest mercy-for-cheaters-kinda opinions have left me speechless. Don't bring up stuff like we are all human beings, we should give second chances etc, because i find them inapropriate. Cheating is the ultimate "crime" when speaking of an online pc game, cheaters are like the murderers of real life. You don't see murderers getting second chances or mercy, so why should we do that here? They knew what they were doing and they were aware of the consequences of their actions, therefore NO EXCUSE could ever justify cheating for me.
This community has made one or two huge mistakes regarding cheaters and now all future cheaters have something to point at when asking for clemency. Very bad move e+!
Please do not be shocked by the comparison level used by me here, I just wanted to make it VERY clear why cheaters should stay the way they are...BANNED.
I rest my case for now because my pizza is here.
i didnt mean it that way 
when i discussed with someone we both agreed that it would be a fair deal if a cheater is caught then he shouldnt be allowed to play in any clans and be banned from the server he was caught in. that is fair IMO because being in clans is the most amazing thing about online gaming plus if he continues to cheat he will slowly kick himself out of the community by getting banned out of every server
20. December 2005 - 16:30
#54
Community
Some of the liberals that don't want the cheater to waste 30 bucks, to this I say.
We are the community, we run the servers, we pay for them, we host them and we set the rules for them.
If the community has rules and they are broken, the cheaters will need to run thier own servers.
We are the admins that make up the community, without admins and guys to pay for the servers there would be no community.
Play by the rules or play single player.
20. December 2005 - 17:00
#55
Creating a judges council
one thing you forget weeble buddy, we all payed for this game too 9well some of us like me) and after i put my cash on Q3 i dont want cheaters wasting my cash in killing my fun, so i would rather hurt one cheaters feelings and wallet then a server full of clean players anyday
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20. December 2005 - 17:45
#56
Creating a judges council
wrote:one thing you forget weeble buddy, we all payed for this game too 9well some of us like me) and after i put my cash on Q3 i dont want cheaters wasting my cash in killing my fun, so i would rather hurt one cheaters feelings and wallet then a server full of clean players anyday
right on mate 
thats why i suggested that you should ban him from the server you admin or own or pay for but no from ALL servers
Edit: OH and its WEEBL not weeble 
20. December 2005 - 17:51
#57
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Creating a judges council
wrote:one thing you forget weeble buddy, we all payed for this game too 9well some of us like me) and after i put my cash on Q3 i dont want cheaters wasting my cash in killing my fun, so i would rather hurt one cheaters feelings and wallet then a server full of clean players anydayright on mate
Edit: OH and its WEEBL not weeble
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20. December 2005 - 19:24
#58
Creating a judges council
wrote:one thing you forget weeble buddy, we all payed for this game too 9well some of us like me) and after i put my cash on Q3 i dont want cheaters wasting my cash in killing my fun, so i would rather hurt one cheaters feelings and wallet then a server full of clean players anydayright on mate
Edit: OH and its WEEBL not weeble
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26. December 2005 - 18:51
#60
Creating a judges council
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result of votes shows members like the control system as it is, today .but not by far a difference.
so about creating a judges council here are the answers :
yes , it is very usefull and we need it.
43% [ 23 ]
no need to do that , the system is good as it is.
50% [ 27 ]
i dont have an opinion on this subject.
5% [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 53
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