Do E+ need a ranking rule about laggers?

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7. December 2010 - 14:04
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YES, and we already have it, and it's fine
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YES, BUT current rule edition is inacceptable
27% (26 votes)
NO, we don't need it at all; it's been since ages that we played without such rule and it was always fine
43% (41 votes)
Total votes: 95


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SHUDDER wrote:
People are training hard to hide their autoshoot so well while gain enough skills to win (or at least compete on similar level) without them. This is getting insane or provoked. I feel like I would cut myself with Ockham's Razor if I claim a cheat there.

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7. December 2010 - 18:15
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Re: Do E+ need a ranked rule about laggers?

edit:
here's current ranking rules edition: http://www.excessiveplus.net/forums/thread/ranking-rules-0

and here's what was expected:
http://www.excessiveplus.net/forums/thread/tag-unique-2-1-d-i-e-06-12-2010
a flame war starting cuz of inacceptable rule/edition of rule


.aNk/xXxp4l/:bR.Shady'XYN! wrote:
Fuck! I just thought of the most awesome pun about the BC vs Smurfs final game and the flames that followed :
"In Soviet Moldavia, Pole rages YOU"
like 2 months after Call me

3M'darkangel wrote:
// 09:30:49 27.06.2010, UNKNOWN LOCATION,
Name { "Biotoxin" }
IP { "localhost" }

SHUDDER wrote:
People are training hard to hide their autoshoot so well while gain enough skills to win (or at least compete on similar level) without them. This is getting insane or provoked. I feel like I would cut myself with Ockham's Razor if I claim a cheat there.

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7. December 2010 - 14:27
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Re: Do E+ need a ranking rule about laggers?

hmm i voted for "YES, BUT current rule edition is inacceptable" my vote was added, and now it's gone LOL nice bug Big grin


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7. December 2010 - 14:31
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Re: Do E+ need a ranking rule about laggers?

maybe you simply missed and voted first option?


.aNk/xXxp4l/:bR.Shady'XYN! wrote:
Fuck! I just thought of the most awesome pun about the BC vs Smurfs final game and the flames that followed :
"In Soviet Moldavia, Pole rages YOU"
like 2 months after Call me

3M'darkangel wrote:
// 09:30:49 27.06.2010, UNKNOWN LOCATION,
Name { "Biotoxin" }
IP { "localhost" }

SHUDDER wrote:
People are training hard to hide their autoshoot so well while gain enough skills to win (or at least compete on similar level) without them. This is getting insane or provoked. I feel like I would cut myself with Ockham's Razor if I claim a cheat there.

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7. December 2010 - 14:34
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Re: Do E+ need a ranking rule about laggers?

I am voted or 2nd option. and vote was added Happy But he isn't here now Big grin


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7. December 2010 - 14:55
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Re: Do E+ need a ranking rule about laggers?

This rule is neccesary but its better imo in this edition :

An official referee has a right to replace/force to spect a lagging player by
the request/consent of the opponent team

If the lagly clan doesnt have enough players to continue match, an opponent has a right to move date/time of the match, otherwise that will be threated like win by walkover for non lagly clan.

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7. December 2010 - 15:09
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Re: Do E+ need a ranking rule about laggers?

- there are people who lagged always some players more some less, who will decide they are allowed or not?

- there are people who do complain about laggy opponents even if the opponents does not lag at all, even seen the ridiculous situations when a lagger have said the other guy on the server do lags while the troubles with aiming was his own lag fault Winking who going to decide what kind amount of the lag is allowed since almost 80% of the people do suffers from packet loss and ping changes?

- giving to the clan a possibility to declare someone as lagger right to their beliefs give a space for rule abuses to eliminate good players form opponents team, so to prevent it they should have not any influence on it

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7. December 2010 - 15:18
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Re: Do E+ need a ranking rule about laggers?

It comes down to fair lagger vs unfair lagger like Skull alluded to in the other thread. And no concrete rule will solve that because of the inevitable biased opinions from the player and enemy team.

I voted for NO rule. If a clan complains about a lagger, its upto the lagger's clan to decide whether he specs or not. For example, in football there isn't a rule that says to put the ball out of play when a players is injured, but most teams do stop because of fair sportsmanship. Slightly different I know, but hope you get the point.
It'll be interesting to know how many PLUS clans complained, to the rank mods, about this lag issue.

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7. December 2010 - 15:20
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Re: Do E+ need a ranking rule about laggers?
JUMPS'FPS! wrote:

This rule is neccesary but its better imo in this edition :

An official referee has a right to replace/force to spect a lagging player by
the request/consent of the opponent team

If the lagly clan doesnt have enough players to continue match, an opponent has a right to move date/time of the match, otherwise that will be threated like win by walkover for non lagly clan.

I think this is good also.

and about if one clan member lags and other clan dont want to play agains that player, the clan with lagly player dont give a sh...on it and they dont change it as i had this situation and was frustrating : ) so no sporstmandship here as far as i saw.


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7. December 2010 - 15:21
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There was this vote bug reported before, when you edit the first post all votes are lost and voters who voted before can't revote again Worried

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7. December 2010 - 15:30
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Re: Do E+ need a ranking rule about laggers?
animalchik wrote:

- there are people who lagged always some players more some less, who will decide they are allowed or not?

- there are people who do complain about laggy opponents even if the opponents does not lag at all, even seen the ridiculous situations when a lagger have said the other guy on the server do lags while the troubles with aiming was his own lag fault Winking who going to decide what kind amount of the lag is allowed since almost 80% of the people do suffers from packet loss and ping changes?

- giving to the clan a possibility to declare someone as lagger right to their beliefs give a space for rule abuses to eliminate good players form opponents team, so to prevent it they should have not any influence on it

Thats why i suggested to give this right to referee. If hes enough objective he can decide do the lags of sm1 breake the fairness if the game.

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