Future Clan Ranking - discusion !

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16. May 2006 - 19:40
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{D*R*T} BODZ! wrote:

Well what the prob to play a lot of clanwars ? If they can find other clan to play with... A rankboard show skill AND activity (that's why u won't find swe high ranked)

Well than I would say its a flaw in ranking system. Swe is not gonna be ranked high and thou winning them wont ward with much score. I guess I dont need to say that they havent lost any single clanwar. They always owned KO wich means they are HARDER to beat. So could u tell me why owning SWE wont give me at least the same amount of points like in KO case?

1st i would like to say that we are not create a ranking system based on the only clan who never play and own the rest. If you don't play, your clan rank will never rise the top, that's an important parameter to have as much as clanwar as we can.
But you can notice also that if swe play only 3 wars against the 3 first clan and own them, they can get 15 points and reach the top. As we said a rank system does not show skill only, it rewards activity too.

BUt personnaly, i don't think it's a matter of points to ask them but to play the best or get a revenge and learn from it. It's always a challenge to play swe, they never play clanwars (1 from more than 6 months).

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16. May 2006 - 19:47
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In other words u r trying to say that new system does not reflect the fact of wich clan is really the best. The facts shows that swe should be considered as such one - not KO. Ranking shows sth diffrent. So imo SWE should really be ranked best.

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16. May 2006 - 19:53
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Imo there's no real way to determine if a team is in fact the best or not if they hardly play any cw's at all. Why they should be awarded the title of the best clan, when they just aren't active? If they want to prove that they deserve the title, they'll just have to play, and i think that is in fact Bodz's point.

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16. May 2006 - 19:57
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Beacouse they have best ratio. ANd becouse every time they beat KO. Why should they be degregaded for not playing lesser clans? I will colorize it a little bit: Thats like Mike Tyson vs 10 yo kid.

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16. May 2006 - 20:03
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Well, i agree, but to some extent. The rank is there to award both skills and activity. And while SWE excells in the skills, they are poor in activity. That's why they should not be ranked first.

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16. May 2006 - 20:03
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pandora!box wrote:

In other words u r trying to say that new system does not reflect the fact of wich clan is really the best. The facts shows that swe should be considered as such one - not KO. Ranking shows sth diffrent. So imo SWE should really be ranked best.

I try to say nothing, old and new rank system didn't and won't show swe as 1st cauz they don't play enough. You are not 1st cauz you beat KO, you are 1st when you are able and play almost every clan and beat them.

Real skill is show by regularity, not by only a performance against KO. I see more skill in regularity and activity than on 1 performance.

Btw i always said that rank give an idea about your place in the community. It will never reflect exactly the reality of the moment but the performance against all through the time.

EDIT : we can add a ratio to the score calcul, but i don't really see a big difference. If you don't play, you won't goes in the top cauz you won 1 clanwar in 6 month

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16. May 2006 - 20:07
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pandora!box wrote:

Beacouse they have best ratio. ANd becouse every time they beat KO. Why should they be degregaded for not playing lesser clans? I will colorize it a little bit: Thats like Mike Tyson vs 10 yo kid.

they has best ratio but how to prove if they still have it?

what will hapen if they refuse play to kep that ratio?

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16. May 2006 - 20:17
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well - now when catchup system is being considered as a new one - its not a problem. Problem is that is quite ridicolos to get just a samll amounf of points for swe O_o

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16. May 2006 - 20:23
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pandora!box wrote:

well - now when catchup system is being considered as a new one - its not a problem. Problem is that is quite ridicolos to get just a samll amounf of points for swe O_o

That's theirs, and only thiers fault. Should they decide to proceed with the first place hunt i'm sure they would be most likely to do so with great success, but they still have to be active. I'm personally looking very forward to see how the new rank system(s?) will work in real action.

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17. May 2006 - 15:23
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If you want to set a normal score board, u have to forget about clans and their actual strenght. U have to set the rules without any concrete clan and only check tha tif the system is good. I think basic idea to limet games/week is a good idea. And basically stuff like footbal ranking. Those are perfect and good working since a century

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