Future Clan Ranking - discusion !
I vote for Foksie's method. Bodz your system is definetely for a league if you have it on a 1 year timescale. One team can play for 9 months and be the best and be inactive for the next three months and still win. In Foksie's system you have to be active all the time. And also clans which are new and start after 10 months from the beggining have a chance to be at the top.
Ok shows how much I know, didnt even read properly :roll: ill go back and read a few :twisted:
id like to mention one thing though.
even though you think you are "forced" to play you are not.
as i see it bodz's method forces you to play more than mine, because the more you play with clans the higher the score. you simply must play to keep your rank for the long term.
in my system if you dont want to play with a clan, you can choose not to. in the worst case you will loose your position. for only one week. because next round you dont have to play them (due to the rule you cant play the same team twice in a row) and you can capture the position above or below them. remember, you will have PRIORITY for that
but what if KO and DRT (in your example) refuse to play SWE? what if SWE cant play a single game with anyone? it is not fair to them. and without hard rules that govern that, it just might hapen. and even if swe plays more games with clans that have nothing to loose, they will get 1 point per win.
in the meanwhile DRT and KO play games where they earn 2 or 3 points... so even by being more active, SWE will be lower ranked. And even by having more skill, they will still be ranked lower.
i will answer only this cauz no time for the rest now lol
1st ko and drt will never refuse to play swe just cauz they got owned by them last time, and cauz if close rank between them they can get many points they won't get against bad ranked clans but ok in the case they refuse to play swe
Well swe will own less point by match but 3 or 2 points with same or lower ranked clan isn't nothing then they could be 3rd easyly and it also depends on the number of points got by clan ranked after ko and drt lol. If close score they all have interest to play against each others.
But we know that the main (and i would like to say the only one) problem is to make bad or new clan to play againt the best. I know this in e5, many many fear to loose, then they don't play. But if they don't loose to much and can win a lot they will think less to play against good clans
EDIT TO ALL and more ar4xis (exept mowly) yeah 1 year is a league but not an obligation, it was a suggest. We can do that from the begining without restarting.
But rounds, planed matches, with everybody following strict rules is a league. Go there and you will get an example Xessiveleague
as i see it bodz's method forces you to play more than mine, because the more you play with clans the higher the score. you simply must play to keep your rank for the long term.
exactly when you are 2n or 1st you play to keep your rank lol, not to go 5th
New for 2006 includes an expanded season allowing for more matches, including the all
important "get even" match as each team will now compete in a double round robin season.
you see that is a league. all leagues usualy use the double round robin system (football etc).
in mine you are not required to play specific teams at all. you pick your opponents, and also your opponents pick you. one game per two week is minimum to keep your current position. you can play 40 games a week if you want, and all to count for your rank that is if you get challanged that much
and about my little example: what if ko and drt agree between themselves to never play swe or each other, instead playing only weaker clans they know they can defeat? and nobody else still wants to play swe? swe will be third, but thats not fair, if they are actualy the best! why be third because of the system if you have full right to be first, due to skill and activity.
GRRRRR
READ MY POSTS LOL i said we don't need to restart if you don't like the idea... so stop arguing about it now
the 2 wars thing is just to prevent 2 clans to play always against each 1 for example if Ko play only against the same clan and win all his point with it, so no football anymore
Your example will never happen but ok let's try it if best clan never play against each other they will never own lot of points and will be catch up by others, it's simple as that
ok but if you dont reset your system, soon one clan will ahve like 10000 points after like 20 years. a new clan that shows up will need 4 or 5 years to catch up (im overreacting, but its for comedic effect )
but you see, if KO never fights DRT they wont loose points in fighting each other, and they will earn points in fighting the 5th best, 6th best etc clan. since the clans are within enough positions, they will earn nice ammount of points, never loosing them. in the meanwhile swe will play with lowest ranking clans because they are only who are not afraid of playing them and earn one point per win. still but not being able to directly challange swe or ko (because they dont have to accept) they can never make a huge difference by taking points away from them!
you see your system is fabulous if teams play fair, but what if they wont?
anyway, dont be mad
the more we both probe each others systems for weakness the easier it is to find what to fix and build a better system
please point stuff out on mine too
lol for me you find problems where there isn't, really dude
I want only to make something easy to understand for all without problem of forcing people about something, work from clanleaders (they have enough) or problems with players (we always have about everything)
It will be same as before, with only a different system to rank closer than the reality of clan skill on the sticky that's all, not a big change
But as i said i'm for a league with your system, with clan interested to do it next to the official rank system.
ye bodz, only your system is closer to league
but anyway this doesnt require a lot of work
it requires one post per 2 weeks and one post per game played. doesnt seem much.
about what RAGE says, my system already incorporates that
i didnt post it in system, cause its actualy league rules, but the same ranking is for everything, only the clan that challanges also picks gametype that way all clans are encouraged to play all game types and practice them
just imagine, 2sweet taking number one spot from SWE by challanging them on CTF then KO taking number one spot from 2sweet by challanging them on TDM. much more fun than one clan on position 1 all the time
but, why not run all 3 systems in the same time, and let people vote after 2 or 3 months?
lol u 2 type to much i read 75%
i think we need a ranking system for CTF TDM and TAG
3 easy post's
Official Clan Rank !(TDM)
Official Clan Rank ! (TaG)
Official Clan Rank !(CTF)
&
Maybe
Official Clan Rank (Tottal)!
I think its best to keep things simple.
The Ranking system need more statistics
Eg for TDM
Games Played-Win-Loose-Draw-Frags-Frags Against-Points