Have to agree on that!

All weapons and full ammo...
E+ is all about insane fragging. Thats what makes it so fun

Rail has become an instant gib-weapon on many servers. This is accepted. CTF on a spacemap with a gun like this...

On original E+ settings there are... what... BFG that might give an instant kill. But with some distance to the attacker its possible to dodge that. But dodging rail? No can do...

Harding a camper? I keep reading this from time to another. Imho, he is the current best E+ FFA player available. Annoying but still...

@Bo
Definition of a camper... +5 sec in one area?
Dont agree.
You can reveal many players that fackenick by their move pattern... Man, my movement aint bad, its worse than bad. Maybe the lousiest 'mover' in E+.

E+ rox!
Frag on dudez

umm, read the post Iz.

5 seconds *waiting* on spawns in a good area. Not 5 secs in general, thats just stupid. What I mean is if you clear an area and the action dies and you know that the action is elsewhere but STILL wait because you know its gonna start spawning here and you are happy because you got the nice lil camp spot.. then you are camping.

And I agree, Harding, together with Ice, HQ and Sub (when he is at his best) are in my opinion the best players in this mod. They pwn me like I n00b thats for sure. That dont mean that they are not camping does it? In fact I think it makes it even more irritating that they camp, they can win without camping. And Harding is good at it, its hard to camp some areas, it takes a lot of skill, but it destroys the game for others, it makes camping a necessity, the only way to win over a camper is to camp better. I just wish e+ would be about fragging skills and movement skills rather than camping skills. And all of us that have seen Harding move on the maps where he does move know he got them, I just wish he would use those skills instead of the camping skills.

This guy wasnt fakenicking. He used his clan tag but different name. I thought it was a new player in clan but it was just a new name. And maybe I could have spotted him by his movement pattern if I had looked longer but I didnt have to, I saw that he moved instantly to one spot when he spawn at a certain place and to another spot when he spawned on another place and camped there. Took me less than 40 secs to figure out who he was by camping habits.

I been doing a lot of speccing the good players latelly mostly because I am sooooooooooooooo damned tired of the camping in this mod. I love playing in it, but I hate the camping. I have been looking at clock to see how much time they do other things than beeing in their favourite spot or moving towards it and the results are quite annoying. And as I said, it forces camping for all others that want to have a shot at the lead of the map. It only takes about 20-30 secs into the map to know what area to stay away from because you *know* that one of the top 2 players on the map is gonna be there camping. You might argue that I can try to take him out and sure, eventually I will, but he is in that area (or spot rather) for a reason, it will give him at least a slight advantage. It will take me a couple of tries and all others too to get him because he is used to that spot and knows how to play it and he has the advantage. And while me and maybe 5 others try to take him out he will get like 8-12 frags before we get him.. whats the point? I played a map against BROKEN once, and I dont know the map name. As soon as I got in to the main room I threw a rail without even looking and maybe 2 times outta 5 I would hit him right on. 2 other times I was close but 2 times outa 5 with a rail and not look before you shoot and hit.. thats kinda sad. Rail hit area aint that big so he cant be moving much

There was a time when camping a map on a BRO server would get you kicked or banned, it was even in the server MOTD. That would leave quite empty servers today sadly. I guess that rule today would be impossible to enforce because people have so much respect for Harding for example that they only see his skill (and he has mad skills, I am not arguing that) and what he is good at, not his bad habits. Look at the demo between Harding and IcerMan. Its a f**king great game, both of them are playing godlike but if you look closer you will see that in most situations where they both know where the other player is, Harding will be spamming rl and bfg backing away Ice takes the initiative to be agressive and move forward. Only rarelly will Harding play agressivelly and move in. I guess we all have different playtypes, some of us are agressive, others are defensive. But whats the fun in playing defensive. It might be effective sure, but is it fun to play or to watch? In all honestly we only got to see Ice POV so I might be 100% wrong when it comes to this game but I can only "report" what I see right?

Sry HQ i dont understand exacttly what you mean by that? Explain! Butt i did not mean in a bad way when i sayd that you impressed evry1 whit your sneakky style its damn good. I think it was you that invented that here I have not say nothing about you are camping or so hehe you never do that or almost never! Well sure you pull off a Rail shot 2 a Spawn sometime butt WTF evry1 does that

I am Cool I just didnt understand what you meant! You say that you camp so much as others do! And your queston was what is your other name then i guess it would be Counter Striker

spawn sopt campers do annoy me, but as much as it is annoying when you spawn and get fragged, especially in tag or freeze games, its your reaction to shoot when someone spawns, i always do it if im going past and someone spawns, but someone on deathmatch that camps at a re spawn point really does my head in,

one thing i would like to add, in ctf when you have the flag the camper alert thing shouldt come on, i think with the flag you wanna hide which is only fair. what you guys think?