map control and timing items is a skill, too. But speaking about map-control would be a bit too much in e+, yet.

GN

I play e+ and not instagib, even if rail is a 98 % instagib weapon on plusN.cfg.

And something like mapcontrol with instagib is just possible on small or open maps.

Your last comment seems very narrow-minded.

As well as your remark on the splitting. Actually you beat yourself , with your own arguments, like "go play cpma ...if/than..."

I say go play cpma if u want same gameplay on nearly all servers.

The PlusN config is the new standard for me. It is actually the first popular config which makes at least a bit sense. The first popular config which is built up with some effort. The first popular config which means more than hit 'n run.

The config offers some facets more than all other configs, in order to finish a mapsuccessfully. And it is a fact that the camping went back clearly.

Certainly that is presumably only an opinion, but ur smart-aleck behavior and ur narrow-minded argumentation will not result in changing my oppinion in order to play a config again, which is born out of a bug, an accident, which hardly makes sense, which has NO weapon-balance and leads to a huge camp-game.

I played something better than the classical plus.cfg, which needs not just aim and moventment, which needs also kinda map-control and item-timing at least a bit.

And it is still not comparable with osp/cpma and baseq, since the game is still more than 90 % instagib.

I have the feeling, you only keep off because your superior aiming is not worth anymore as much as before.

Those ones are coarsely formulated, my points.

total f1

actually i prefer to die instead to take powerups, this is my small-humble protest.
slowly quittin'..

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I can't satisfy everyone’s needs, there is so many different likings that this is just impossible to do. I am aiming in camping map control that seemed to be hated for everyone who played Clan Wars, and if u guys hate camping, like u did admitted Doc many times, u should be more opened for these changes.

Like other peoples expressed their opinions I can also wrote go play CA then although it is no longer insta kill, go try out plusN CA without a single item on map and then u can still group whole 5 and camp in one room yes I haven’t mean “go play CPMA CA”

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I say go play cpma if u want same gameplay on nearly all servers.

Xd plz CPMA has the following modes with each being played actively :

1v1 (yep, relies on map control)
TDM (yep, relies on team map control)
CTF (yep, powerup control, also movement.)
CA (public CA is the fastest and coolest quake-related gametype which i have seen, and i've seen quite a few... it's phenomenal to watch the movement and the aim of random cpma players (i mean any guy, not "PROFESSIONAL" )
CTFs (this is a combo of CA cos you start with all weapons and then take turns trying to attack the flag... it's a pleasure to watch speed demons like a certain nameless Mexican friend who recently lost to eThaD in an ESR sponsored 1v1 cup)
NTF where you also start with all weapons... you choose one of 4 classes which define what is your default +forward speed, your spwaning health/ammo and your spawning 3 weapons. I haven't even played it cos i need to learn CPM properly before biting into everything
Then there are also things like HoonyMode (which is played in lolleagues as well) which i can't even comment on but are a massive change to other gametypes.

In e+ you have:
PLUS, nice gametype, a little bit zany/whacky but that's the purpose of it anyway.
e5 and all it's variants All directly proportional, so if switch-spam is decreased, camping and "spray and pray" tactics are increased. Reason they are all grouped together (e5/e5r/e6) is cos publically only Borg CTF is played, plus a FW now and then.
BFG ONLY airmap server. it's fun and stuff. I heard fooki was there the other day, cos he needed to "practice his bfg aim for certain cups"
Rail-only lazery arenas, which are primarily played by my russian and CSO countrymates.

Any other config is a nice initiative, a lot of effort but it will NOT be played apart from when config maker will try to get a few of his mates to test/play. There's 3 popular serious servers in e+. Anything else just won't pick up. It didn't pick up 2 years ago when there were more playing people, it will not pick up now. In theory you have the greatest mod everr that has something for EVERYBODY, in practice, you have 2 popular Tag servers at any time of day (when aim+/beer go to sleep, 2 US servers wake up), and an e5r ctf server in 1.03. Mow, i think you are terribly wrong saying e+ is a lot more "varied" than cpm.

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..adding item based map control is like adding a legal cheat to a game.

Xd plz :> :> :>
Ima take a stab in the dark, but it's cos you spent 3 years getting good at a game, and when you get to cpma pickup, you get put into lolquotes regarding your "INSTA IS TOTALLY SUPERIOUR LOL" attitude, and you are just bitter that things your are good in are not considered something skillful outside 2 niche mods, 1 of which is now dead and buried.

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go try out plusN CA without a single item on map and then u can still group whole 5 and camp in one room yes I haven't mean "go play CPMA CA"

Xd plz Around the time i saw 2 russian nice gentlemen spamming bfg to the twisty corridor in dm11 for 30+ consecutive seconds without stopping, i realised something is wrong with this whole Mod. To put it bluntly, in e+ people camp just as much. It even started an in-joke that Polish/Russian people have no souls. There are no rules that 4 nice gentlemen should all sit in Rocket Arena and spam Bfg to every entry point in the room, it just happens. Same as some russian clan in QL who was sitting in MEgahealth room for entire match spamming nades till they ran out. we raped them on all 4 maps we played them btw. You play in clanbase NG cups, is it all strafe-happy runs forward there? or is it +walk+walk + back for 20 mins? Camping happens cos clans and palyers wish to win, and they are careful. People in e+ wars camp us much, people on PUBLIC servers normally don't. that applies to every CA/Freeze/TeamSurvivor/Elimination game i've played in any game/mod. it's proposterous to say e+ is a camp-free mod.

1) the proper term in "englisch"is "fun" when you are talking about something you enjoy... funny implies something you sit and chuckle at.
2) nixin was here from 2007... he lost his old password cos in the tough city of Ufa, passwords are generated with closed eyes and no less than 40 keys. If he was from 2008, it would have been contributing against you that a player who has only been here for 9 months (5 of those in 1.03) sees the monotamy of this mod/game and you do not. Xd plz
3) *at this point i ran out of magic mana to keep my cool, so i will not reply to any more points regarding "wery funy mod", "HiqhQuality Waving lazery arena!" or skull's latest post. i dont have it in me it's it's it's too strong. i can feel it transforming.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA EXCESSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE OLOLOLOLOLOL WERY AIM CHEMPIONS MULTIJUMPS ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS, BFG SHOULD BE ON CLANBASE, nARCYZ CHEATER COS HE SHOT ME OLOLOLO

For the sake of this postnot being seen as a "troll post", i replace all "OLOLOLOLOLOLO"s with ":>", "retard(s)" with "nice gentleman(men)" and "HAHA YOU MUST BE FUCKING KIDDING" with "Xd plz", then my hingover brain made me unable to continue with constructive points