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WASP*KILLER wrote:


As far as plus.cfg, it seems that 350 is the most common speed in Europe, with bursts (according to Skull) of 420 or higher.

420 is used by nwc.cfg, but theoretically u can play plus with 420 Happy

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I see this going to railomania, u limited most of the weapons and give so many rail rounds, all people who prefer to move instead of walking with rail, run out of bfg ammo drastically quick.
All what we have now is many weapons witch can’t kill enemy on their own cause lack of power or to low ammo (beside rail, bfg(direct hit), rl(direct hit)), so we are forced to switch between them all as fast we can and spam the enemy to the death or use rail. And this whole improvement of plus.cfg was to prevent spamming and camping right? So far U get really opposite effect.

Sorry for sarcastic language, I’m aiming in bugs in config not into U.

Did u tried to kill someone who spawned with armor by mg lg pg sg bfg? That’s not really a smart idea to decrease weapons power (mg ,lg) and give people armor to make weapons more weaker.

- pg - I am the only one who use it? 5 ammo for machineguns type of weapon? Do for mg 10 ammo and let’s see if u are able to kill someone, why u didn't disable it at all?

- mg, lg - what is the point of using lg now? It has lower range than mg and no other benefits maybe just disable it at all? lg cloud be better than mg when mg spreading bullets not directly (to direct shot on long distance we have rail, btw in config u have bug not radius but spread if comes to mg) and has lot weaker damage than lg, for now both weapons are nearly the same just add to mg moving abilities and then u have exactly the same guns.

- bfg - what is the point of using rl now? bfg is all the way better and have exactly the same usage as rl but it is faster and have more powerful splash damage, maybe u just wanted to see ppl spamming rl+bfg and cause of that u didn’t disabled it? I like the idea on plus.cfg rl killing by direct shot and bfg killing by aimed splash.

- sg - U can also disable it, I did shot once from short distance to enemy then switched to lg drag on enemy lg, switched back to sg another hit from sg, switched to lg and still enemy was alive while I’m was out of sg ammo and trying to hurt him by lg. The situation repeated several times (armor system makes weapons unbalanced).

- anticcamp - U want prevent camping? set anticamp to rail only, ppl still are able to stand and wait on U with rail, and when u fight with few enemies arounding u on freeze U are forced to run on them screaming URAAAAAA or die by anticamp, that’s just brilliant, beside I have not enough fingers to count when anticamp did killed me while unfreezing teammate after fight.

Suggestions

- pg - should have at least 50 ammo.

- mg, lg - ffs make these guns deferent, little splash damage give to lg on plus.cfg that benefit which mg has not, mg should spread bullets and lg should have way more damage.

- bfg - give to bfg and rl some deference’s, cause now rl is used only for spamming bfg+rl+gl, why bfg should kill on direct shot while rl can do it?

- sg - way more damage.

- disable anticamp or set it to rail only and make it heavier.

- armor system changes a lot, so balance weapons power to the way u can kill someone using 1 gun only, or remove all other guns and we going to play rail only.

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nothing wrong with railomania, or is rail that easy weapon scyzor? there are barely guys in e+ being able to handle it properly.

also lg and mg strength is mostly crippled due to people aiming bad with it, also u dont run out of bfg ammo if u use it for movement mostly.
"...and spam the enemy to the death or use rail."
so foks reached his target, u arent able to spam ur enemy to death without aiming.

to the camping - well, some kind of anticamp is needed, but no anticamp in the world gonna stop a 1 second ambush except be anticamp.

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scyzor wrote:

...Suggestions

- pg - should have at least 50 ammo.

- mg, lg - ffs make these guns deferent, little splash damage give to lg on plus.cfg that benefit which mg has not, mg should spread bullets and lg should have way more damage.

- bfg - give to bfg and rl some deference’s, cause now rl is used only for spamming bfg+rl+gl, why bfg should kill on direct shot while rl can do it?

- sg - way more damage.

- disable anticamp or set it to rail only and make it heavier.

- armor system changes a lot, so balance weapons power to the way u can kill someone using 1 gun only, or remove all other guns and we going to play rail only.

Scyzor, that was a thoughtful post. Whether ppl agree with you or not. Personally, I use rail and bfg 99% of the time. But at least you took the time to write one of the best analyses of edawn.

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rUnThEoN?! wrote:

nothing wrong with railomania, or is rail that easy weapon scyzor? there are barely guys in e+ being able to handle it properly.

And a lot less ppl who can handle the whole rest of weapons, and that’s does not change the fact I want be able to kill enemy from other weapons, have u ever saw that someone had 30kills during cw by lg, sg, rl, pg, or even so strong bfg? Cause I didn’t.

rUnThEoN?! wrote:


also lg and mg strength is mostly crippled due to people aiming bad with it, also u dont run out of bfg ammo if u use it for movement mostly.
"...and spam the enemy to the death or use rail."
so foks reached his target, u arent able to spam ur enemy to death without aiming.

U know better than me that I don't run out of bfg ammo, while I did written I do? (Write that U don't, then that would be true, and we both have hell a lot deferent game style so I do).
Sorry but have U just suggested that there are no problem with mg, lg, and the problem is I'm noob and the whole bunch of ppl are noobs to?
To the quote u pasted, I think u misunderstand me a lot or trying to make these words look deferent that their real state is, so I will repeat:

There is no gun we can kill enemy with on their own (beside rail, bfg(direct shot), rl(direct shot)) so ppl choosing most effective tactic to switch between these main weapons and spam, rest of guns aren’t that effective maybe they will add sg to but sg can't kill enemy alone. There isn’t easy to kill by rl or bfg by direct shot so ppl think the splash damage will eliminate enemy or missile hit him accidently directly, so they spam.

If U want prove that I'm wrong, show me a screen on what U have 50kills during cw by mg, lg, pg, sg, rl, gl, such a skilled player shouldn’t have problems with it, if...

rUnThEoN?! wrote:


to the camping - well, some kind of anticamp is needed, but no anticamp in the world gonna stop a 1 second ambush except be anticamp.

That has no sense or I can't understand it, I agree that anticamp won't make ppl stop camping.

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scyzor wrote:


have u ever saw that someone had 30kills during cw by lg, sg, rl, pg, or even so strong bfg? Cause I didn’t.

you missed the point of this thread. sit down please Big grin

(but sg could be really a "bit" stronger on close range, i also have to say, i had some 1 shot sg kills against bob on our 1on1 session)

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I agree with scyzor at some points. Lg,mg 100% share his opinion other things like armor etc is just nonsense imo I would keep plus like it is now and would never change it ,yea.

(.I tried to be perfect ,but nothing was worth it I don't believe it make's me real.)

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rUnThEoN?! wrote:

nothing wrong with railomania

for that kind off play there is raillonly cfg/s ...

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rUnThEoN?! wrote:
nothing wrong with railomania

for that kind off play there is raillonly cfg/s ...

very limited sight of the things.

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toxicity wrote:

I agree with scyzor at some points. Lg,mg 100% share his opinion other things like armor etc is just nonsense imo I would keep plus like it is now and would never change it ,yea.

This is not plus, though.